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OK so I first found reference to CastleCops, the vigilantes, in this Red Herring article. Just a day or two ago I found another one at Wikipedia, or that is at least how I read it as they group CastleCops and other antiscammers as "digilantes". Hence I decided to simply ask our membership what you think about us. Four replies thus far, and I decided to post as news one of our volunteer staffer's comments. Its great to get objectivity not just from our members, but from our staff. Ikeb, our CastleCops Wiki admin comments:

In everyday life we don't usually need to take the law into our own hands. But even in civilized countries citizens can do so. For example in the United States, it's quite legal to defend one's own home even to the point of inflicting lethal force. Such force is allowed when there is no other recourse.

Applying the same concept to the Internet, it is commonly viewed that malware criminals, the phish con artists, the spam merchants, etc. are becoming even more prevalent than in the past and prospering even more from their illegal activities. I believe many folks have become frustrated with the lack of action on the part of authorities so feel justified in taking matters into their own hands. They believe there is no other recourse.


So what is CastleCops then? Certainly CastleCops is an oasis for travellers traversing the ever expanding desert we know as the Internet. Some just come to seek solace here. Many come to CastleCops to repair any damage done and venture back out into the wild hopefully having gained some wisdom from the experts who frequent CastleCops. Then there are the folks who volunteer their time to help others cope with the wild wild web. In fact they form the oasis known as CastleCops.

But some who frequent CastleCops want to do more than just grin and bear it. Some are satisfied with being able to report illegal and immoral activities. Others are willing to take more activist measures such as filling spam orders with garbage data. And a few are quite willing to entertain DoS attacks in retaliation.

Certainly the latter approach can be considered a vigilante activity, especially when coordinated with like-minded individuals. But should bothering spam merchants with fake orders be considered the be a vigilante activity? In my opinion, protesting illegal activities by activist actions, even to the point of depriving commercial gain, serves a democratic purpose.

Where the line is drawn is not a black and white issue. Certainly CastleCops is firmly against any form of DoS retaliation but hasn't discouraged activist activities. One aspect that might be considered is warning those considering activist actions about the potential risks and the need for extra protection from retaliation by the criminals.

Research and take down of illegal sites via the P/M/S/IRT services is a specific activist action that CastleCops is encouraging and facilitating. In fact by spearheading this public service, CastleCops has become widely recognized by law enforcement officials as highly credible and thus a solid source of forensic evidence. Vetting and training *IRT Handlers is a demanding task though; it's a lot of work and the Handler retention rate is low. And the retention rate is low because it's time-consuming to research even a single takedown. In fact the site owner is now devoting most of his time further developing the IRT service and personally taking down illegal sites.

In some respects the CastleCops forums are suffering because of the decreased attention in favour of IRT development. IMO, the single biggest challenge for CastleCops is scaling the current *IRT operations while retaining the familiar CastleCops forums oasis so many have come to rely on ... and which many of us now call home.
Even though I posted a comment about CastleCops discouraging attacks against scam sites, it appears as if its not prominent enough. So I hope this is a step in the right direction in making it more publicly visible.

I want to thank everyone who is commenting and sharing their objective thoughts about the CastleCops community. Keep'em coming! Thank you for making CastleCops home.
Posted on Tuesday, 25 September 2007 @ 14:28:12 UTC by Paul (1519 reads)
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Re: Are we vigilantes, part deux (Score: 1)
by PAN_IRISH  on Tuesday, 25 September 2007 @ 17:00:16 UTC
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This anti-malware community is not unlike the community that works on open source software and applications that are free to all.
Except that this community is dedicated to investigating and doing documentation and traceability for the purpose of communicating with the host of the site sending out such malware so as to INTERDICT the activity which is ILLEGAL and DETRIMENTAL to users of the INTERNET.

I wish you all the best; and nothing less.
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Re: Are we vigilantes, part deux (Score: 1)
by Tapper62  on Friday, 28 September 2007 @ 04:24:12 UTC
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I am curious to see when/if a scammer ever reports a fraud site is ever reported to the proper authorities for being flooded with false orders as some of the multitude of programs freely available on the 'net offer. These scammers are selling bogus pharmacy products in most occasions and wonder just whom would be in the deepest do-do over an attack?

I have no problem with the vigilantes that are fed up with the deluge of spam and go on the attack, all the power to those brave souls.



Re: Are we vigilantes, part deux (Score: 1)
by sundog  on Tuesday, 02 October 2007 @ 04:02:28 UTC
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A few years ago my mother rang to tell me she had won a prize. A time-share holiday in California. I remember her actually sitting down and crying when she found it was a scam. She is a pensioner and in the midst of struggling to get by thought she had been given a lovely gift.

She hadn't given them any info, she thought to ring me first. I despise the people who make difficult for others, many fragile and depending on the internet to keep in touch with family and friends.

I think what Castle Cops does is an essential part of keeping the internet available to those people.

It is also a hedge against some more conservative governments using internet danger as an excuse to place some form of general filter on their nations internet access.

At a personal level, one day one of those scammers will be living near me and a whole bunch of internet users will be happy to pop by and explain why that should consider buying a white hat... Politely of course!



 
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