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G DATA,Webwasher, and Antivir

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: G DATA,Webwasher, and Antivir
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I've been through a lot of different AVs. Most people use AVs like Norton, Mcafee, Trend Micro and Kaspersky. Now except for Norton all of these are decent AVs, but as I was looking through various AV testing websites I've noticed that usually AVs such as G DATA, Webwasher, and Avira have the best detection rates. Even on castlecops if you look at the Virustotal charts people post after they have submitted malware, Avira and Webwasher almost always catch the malware. Especially WebWasher. It was very very rare that Webwasher had not caught the malware. Virustotal doesn't scan with G Data (to bad). Some Virus Testing Labs actually give Webwasher and G Data 99.9% detection rates. My friend uses G DATA and I came over to his house and he showed me G DATA. Now to do a quick test of G Data I went to castlecops went to the malware links and clicked on each of the malware links. G DATA caught each one. I also noticed when I opened G Data that it uses not one, but two scanning engines (Kaspersky and Avira or Avast). Then I went looking for reviews or tests and I've found that G Data has great detection. As good as 99.9%. Next I'm gonna try webwasher. I just want people to know that the should look at all AV Products including lesser know products before they judge.

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Ex: Virus Bulletin
Detection rates for malware, adware and spyware

Product Malware samples Adware and Spyware
AntiVir (Avira) 99.3% 99.1%
Avast! (Alwil) 98.8% 97.9%
AVG 96.3% 98.6%
AVK (G Data) 99.9% 99.9%
BitDefender 97.8% 98.8%
ClamAV 84.8% 82.4%
Dr Web 90.4% 92.8%
eScan 96.7% 92.1%
eTrust / VET (CA) 72.1% 56.5%
Fortinet-GW 92.4% 91.2%
F-Prot (Frisk) 96.7% 92.0%
F-Secure 96.8% 93.5%
Ikarus 98.0% 98.8%
K7 Computing 65.5% 59.5%
Kaspersky 97.2% 92.0%
McAfee 95.6% 98.6%
Microsoft 97.8% 91.5%
Nod32 (Eset) 97.8% 96.3%
Norman 92.8% 91.9%
Norton (Symantec) 95.7% 98.6%
Panda 95.6% 95.6%
QuickHeal (CAT) 85.7% 86.7%
Rising 94.1% 95.9%
Sophos 98.1% 98.8%
Trend Micro 98.7% 95.1%
TrustPort 99.6% 99.8%
VBA32 89.9% 92.1%
VirusBuster 76.2% 77.8%
WebWasher-GW 99.9% 99.9%
ZoneAlarm 96.4% 94.5%
Number of samples 1130556 83054

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject:
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Avira and AVK are both top notch solutions too.

Obviously, there will be some performance hit when using multi-enigne scanners such as AVK but if you feel that is a price worth paying for a few extra .xx% then so be it Smile

Avira has a really good heuristics engine which means it can detect new viruses without a signature present in their database. A downside of this is that avira has a higher rate of false detections than some other antivirus scanners.

Also, don't forget that most AV's now incorporate some sort of HIPS or behaviour blocker which protects your computer by analysing and blocking suspicious actions, so you should look out for HIPS/Behaviour monitoring type features in a package too. Signautres are only one way of testing an AV, and a method that is becoming obsolete pretty quickly Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject:
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Well G DATA is AVK
AVK (G Data)


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MAPKOBKA wrote:

Obviously, there will be some performance hit when using multi-enigne scanners such as AVK but if you feel that is a price worth paying for a few extra .xx% then so be it Smile



Well I've used Kaspersky for instance and it actually slowed my Internet down more than AVK even on low security. On the other hand I chose not to install the Firewall for AVK, but Kaspersky without a firewall slows me down more than AVK without the firewall.

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I know that AVK=gdata, it is quicker to type AVK, thats all Smile


KIS or KAV (causing the slowdown?)


It depends what modules you have installed.

For example, KIS7 has Proactive Defense, three seperate scanning modules (fileav, mailav, webav), Heuristics, antispam, parental control and privacy control plus the firewall. If you chose to install all/some of those features they will obviously have more impact on performance than simply installing the straight file scanner.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject:
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I'm saying that if you install the whole Kaspersky suite and the whole AVK suite Kaspersky would have a greater impact on your computers speed.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: virustotal
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G-Data, WebWasher and TrustPort use several engines at once.

VirusTotal doesn't need to scan with these antivirus because it already uses all that engines separately, and in their latest version.

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G-Data (= Kaspersky + Avast) is one of the top av-scanners. Latests tests like av-comparatives.org were showing 99.5%.

However, there seem to be a change of the engines again for the 2009 versions.

There's a large beta-test thread on the German:
www.rokop-security.de/index.php?showtopic=17082

The beta tests for 2009 are just about to finish (now RC2). At the beginning of the beta it was Kaspersky + Avast as in previous years (2007 + 2008).
But suddenly Gdata changed it to Bitdefender (as it was till 2006) + Avast without giving/refusing any comments about the change.

There are now a lot of speculations as to why and what it means to the total rate of detections for the 2009 versions since 99.5% with Kaspersky + Avast is already very good.

Let's wait for the next tests.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: G DATA,Webwasher, and Antivir
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[quote="knicksfan3"]I've been through a lot of different AVs. Most people use AVs like Norton, Mcafee, Trend Micro and Kaspersky. Now except for Norton all of these are decent AVs, but as I was looking through various AV testing websites I've noticed that usually AVs such as G DATA, Webwasher, and Avira have the best detection rates. Even on castlecops if you look at the Virustotal charts people post after they have submitted malware, Avira and Webwasher almost always catch the malware. Especially WebWasher. It was very very rare that Webwasher had not caught the malware. Virustotal doesn't scan with G Data (to bad). Some Virus Testing Labs actually give Webwasher and G Data 99.9% detection rates. My friend uses G DATA and I came over to his house and he showed me G DATA. Now to do a quick test of G Data I went to castlecops went to the malware links and clicked on each of the malware links. G DATA caught each one. I also noticed when I opened G Data that it uses not one, but two scanning engines (Kaspersky and Avira or Avast). Then I went looking for reviews or tests and I've found that G Data has great detection. As good as 99.9%. Next I'm gonna try webwasher. I just want people to know that the should look at all AV Products including lesser know products before they judge.

----I'm sorry, but this all looks like SPAM to me. There is no need to say the name of the product that many times. And it seems like you would rather talk about how great it is than have a true discussion.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: G DATA,Webwasher, and Antivir
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knicksfan3 wrote:
I've been through a lot of different AVs. Most people use AVs like Norton, Mcafee, Trend Micro and Kaspersky. Now except for Norton all of these are decent AVs, but as I was looking through various AV testing websites I've noticed that usually AVs such as G DATA, Webwasher, and Avira have the best detection rates. Even on castlecops if you look at the Virustotal charts people post after they have submitted malware, Avira and Webwasher almost always catch the malware. Especially WebWasher. It was very very rare that Webwasher had not caught the malware. Virustotal doesn't scan with G Data (to bad). Some Virus Testing Labs actually give Webwasher and G Data 99.9% detection rates. My friend uses G DATA and I came over to his house and he showed me G DATA. Now to do a quick test of G Data I went to castlecops went to the malware links and clicked on each of the malware links. G DATA caught each one. I also noticed when I opened G Data that it uses not one, but two scanning engines (Kaspersky and Avira or Avast). Then I went looking for reviews or tests and I've found that G Data has great detection. As good as 99.9%. Next I'm gonna try webwasher. I just want people to know that the should look at all AV Products including lesser know products before they judge.

----I'm sorry, but this all looks like SPAM to me. There is no need to say the name of the product that many times. And it seems like you would rather talk about how great it is than have a true discussion.


Well I can tell you for a fact that I'm not spamming at all and I would definitely like to have a true discussion but I'm not spamming and it actually makes me feel that you are kinda of stupid to think I'm spamming considering the fact I'm talking about three unrelated products.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: spam
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hey, knicksfan3, if I offended you i am sorry. I am obviously new here, but I just called like I saw it. I am fine if you disagree with me. But there is no need for name calling and to attack my intelligence because you do not agree with me. I will leave it at that.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject:
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Hello all!
And here are the lastest test results by AV-Test.org / Andreas Marx from University of Magdeburg published on Sept 2, 2008 now already including some suites in 2008 and 2009-versions:

http://www.virusbtn.com/news/2008/09_02

Surprising enough:
Gdata's AVK 2009 is slightly better than Gdata's AVK 2008.
Remember:
-AVK 2008 used Avast and Kaspersky scan engines
-AVK 2009 uses Avast and BitDefender (again) scan engines

There is still the beta version (RC2) of GDATA's AVK 2009 in operation but the final versions should have been released today for Germany-Austria-Switzerland but nothing to see. Probably postponed a few days for whatever reasons.

btw:
no. 2 is Avira's Premium Security Suite 2008 and no 3 Secure Computing's Webwasher gateway product came third in both categories.

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