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The GOD Equation: Math + religion = Trouble
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject:
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Hi B11ngo,

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I've sinned, but I pray that God forgive me.
All I was doing was hoping to set you free from those who inspired or set into motion the state of health etc you are right now.


I thank you very much from the bottom of my big heart!

The rest of your post was good as well. Thanks for being understanding & you're surely NOT a stupid person!

It's just sometimes & many times people don't understand your posts anymore, including enegue, but we'll leave him aside for now. I'm sure he'll think & contact you sometime. You never know when?

Anyhoo...

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject:
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(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."

They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

from the Gospel of Thomas

http://www.webcom.com/gnosis/naghamm/gthlamb.html


Oh & this is the one I really should've quoted back when - My head must've been really spinning (thanks Bingo!)

I'm gonna take Quincy for a walk now so bye!

Happy Mother's Day to all You Mothers (& EveryOne else too!)

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject:
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Oh & just one more thing.

Bingo darlin'? Charles Schultz (the Creator of Peanuts) including Lucyfer was an Atheist.) Just wanted to make sure You knew that (You probably are aware of that already!)

& hate to bring this up again but ... have You given any thought at all to the other thingy?

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject:
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Hey I really like the Animals in Love video on UTuuuube! heart

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject:
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Hey B11ngo,

That YouTube video was about how times are changing & the signs of the time are all around us. I can see the signs & I believe firmly the Revalation is complete "Metaphor", but I do understand parts, but don't believe in a place called Hell where people burn forever & ever because the world had perhaps been destroyed by the A-Bomb & the fallout is thousands of years, if not for good?

I believe we all go to Heaven as All have sinned & come short the glory of God, and I've never seen enegue post that passage Confused & you can ask "Diety" to let you visit your friends in "Hell on earth", without the radiation harming you? Then you can go back to Heaven when you're finished...Do you believe that Question

Am I not correct in what I say & can you understand why I wrote this post Question

Hell will be on earth, not some other place. That's what I believe Wink

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject:
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I think I watched a different video Exclamation Confused Exclamation

I didn't see the one You are referring to David mon amigo? It sounds a tad despicable! I prefer the Prince song (& bitw He is now a Symbol) this from Signs o' the Times,

"Sign O the Times mess with your mind."

& Y'know I don't like messing or f***ing with people's minds!

& this brings me to another idea Idea I was having. I was thinking about starting a New Topic.

What is Your Pet Peeve?

What? (or Who?) is Your Pet Peeve?

But would the people get "peevish" or ornery? or ill-tempered? if I started a New Topic like that?

Just Wondering & please let me know what You think of my idea for a New Topic?

Piece/Peace,
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject:
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Hi JACQ Very Happy

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I was having. I was thinking about starting a New Topic.

What is Your Pet Peeve?

What? (or Who?) is Your Pet Peeve?


IMHO...it should be "What is your Pet Peeve"

If you put who, it may go against the AUP & I surely would NOT want you to get banned, then you'd have to make up proxies & sign in as other users like Q did many times.

I really do miss him, but I really think he's going through a crisis right now. We'll see him back. Maybe Felix is really Q...who knows & perhaps he doesn't want anyone to know it's him Question

Stranger things have happened on this forum, let me tell ya goyl Laughing

Anyhoo...

Hey There JACQY-E-POO.........Love + Peace! heart


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject:
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Hi JACQ Very Happy

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I was having. I was thinking about starting a New Topic.

What is Your Pet Peeve?

What? (or Who?) is Your Pet Peeve?


IMHO...it should be "What is your Pet Peeve"

Anyhoo...

Hey There JACQY-E-POO.........Love + Peace! heart


Hi David,

Yeah I know what You mean, I think I see what You're saying here. When I said "Who?" I was thinking about a Tom & Jerry cartoon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Peeve_%28Tom_and_Jerry%29

& Truth really is stranger than Fiction sometimes.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject:
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Hiya JaCQ-E-Poo, I Luv U Wink

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Hi David,

Yeah I know what You mean, I think I see what You're saying here. When I said "Who?" I was thinking about a Tom & Jerry cartoon.


I just don't want you to get in trouble, that's all. I like you to much & if you got banned, you'd have to set up proxies like Q did many times & had diff u-names Laughing

I think Q is BigFelix, but is, bit is hiding it, but perhaps not. Maybe he's taking a "time out". I hope he doesn't do anything stupid, if you know what I mean?

Hey JACQ-E-Pooooo...I Luv You......Peace! heart


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject:
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JoAnnCQ,

I don't care for the term Religion, Christian, etc.
I care of others or in their care I don't use religious terms, and since I make no attempt at small talk I don't see the need to think of others in religious terms.

I think God see's me, Larry Kilgore.
And he doesn't see a religious name, but a person.

I don't care Peanuts creator was not religious.

Why would I wear a Woman Cloths.
Do they tll you I should?
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David,

I don't believe in existance after we die.
We sleep till we are resurrected.
Hell on Earth?
David, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.


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Hiya B11ngo, Smile

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a mind is a terrible thing to waste.


Yes, but just read revalation & ponder what I wrote about the world being destroyed by the A-Bomb.

They already did it in WWII with the "Enola Gay" on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. There goes @ 1/4 of our world & people are still suffering from the radiation! We only have @ 3/4 of our world left. I cry when I think of all those Japanese still suffering from radiation poisoning! Crying or Very sad

Ponder that eh? Shocked

P.S. [They haven't rebuilt much of those buildings because of $$$. That's why they put people in "Sweat Shops", especially in China. Not so much in Japan! Our Canadian & US $$$ are worth a lot to them. $1.00 will buy them a good meal, and groceries to boot! Ponder that as well! & so many purchase stuff made in China or Japan & it goes to the corrupt government! Sad ]

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject:
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esacnitsuj,

As to how the world will end. I will try to tell you how I see it.
There is a recent thread where I talk about being resurrected a woman.
In it I talk about something calle "Si".

Now, the Si of the World is simple.
In Sum. You be strong, pretty, educated, etc...
And the herd mentality will love you.
But a herd of Animals is predictable.
Like Cattle.

God the bible says is a grower of things.
In great truth, he grows Sperm in the Man.
And wants the man now to keep him at this task unnessessarily.

Now Gos will grow a Man, who will not be a part of the herd.
And this is the man God will call "Civility", "a man to reckon with", "a man of quality".
Because of the Si.
And once God has this Elect man, the End will come.
Not immediately, but within a generation.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject:
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...there are still laws on the books (from that time) in six or seven States which prevent a person from holding public office who does not declare allegiance to a particular religion.

I was wondering if you are able to elaborate on this: quote??? Any links Question

Charles


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The "no religious test" clause of the United States Constitution is found in Article VI, section 3, and states that:

“ ...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. ”

This has been interpreted to mean that no federal employee, whether elected or appointed, "career" or "political," can be required to adhere to or accept any religion or belief. This clause immediately follows one requiring all federal and state officers to take an oath of support to the Constitution. This implies that the requirement of an oath, even presumably one taken "So help me God" (not a part of the presidential oath, the only one spelled out in the Constitution, but traditionally almost always added to it), does not imply any requirement by those so sworn to accept a particular religion or a particular doctrine.

The clause is cited by advocates of separation of church and state as an example of "original intent" of the Framers of the Constitution of avoiding any entanglement between church and state, or involving the government in any way as a determiner of religious beliefs or practices. This is important as this clause represents the words of the original Framers, even prior to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

State law
Earlier in U.S. history, the doctrine of states' rights allowed individual states to choose not to have this provision in their state constitutions or even to have an opposite provision; such provisions have by extension in recent decades been deemed to be unconstitutional by the extension of the First Amendment provisions to the states (via the incorporation of the 14th Amendment).

Six states, however, have language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, or in the body of their constitutions that require state office-holders to have particular religious beliefs. These states are Texas, Massachusetts, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee. The required beliefs include belief in a Supreme Being, and belief in a future state of rewards and punishments. Some of these same states specify that the oath of office include the words "so help me God." In some cases these beliefs (or oaths) were historically required also of jurors, witnesses in court, notaries public, and state employees. While these laws are often regarded as relics, if it became known that a non-believer was elected to office, there is the possibility of a court challenge over eligibility. In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that such language in state constitutions was in violation of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution in Torcaso v. Watkins. In 1997 the South Carolina Supreme Court ruled that the state constitution requiring an oath to God for employment in the public sector was unconstitutional.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_religious_test_clause


Hi Charles,

I was researching something else & came across this. I also wanted to comment on some of the other things You said back then but don't have enuff time right now.

Notice, "In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously ruled that such language in state constitutions was in violation of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution."

Sort of troubling, isn't it? I mean with the way things are going? & the way that some of the Peoples are grasping at straws out of desperation?

Love & Piece,
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