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sweets1953
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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M2,
And in addition to my post above which was a response to your questions with a couple of my questions thrown in, could you please tell me how to save GetBackData results, so that I don't have to repeat another four hours to get to the completed result?
(I tried File - "Save recovery", however when I tried to open the file on my Desktop I was asked to "Open with", and after all the selections the original 4 hour file was not there.
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Mister2
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You left out a step. | No, I didn't.
You are referring to opening a folder, not a file. If the files you are trying to recover are in a sub folder (I don't know if they are or not - you haven't told me) using GetDataBack then they would have been in the same sub folder using the other applications. In which case there is no need to repeat the obvious.
If you know the names of the documents you want to recover (as intimated in a previous post) then just recover those files - there is no need to recover every other file fragment. As for saving the search, I don't know the answer to that one. If your method didn't work then it is probably not possible.
I suggest you run the search then start recovering the files you need. Leave the computer switched on until you have finished - overnight if necessary.
There may be ways to retrieve data from the file fragments (the 'gibberish') but it would be difficult and I cannot go into the details here. I will say again - if the files are of value to you (either monetary or sentimental) then consider a professional data recovery service. If there are only a few files you need then it may not be too expensive. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't try to open a folder it was a file. On the left was the directory and on the right were the files, (Step 3 of GetBackData). I followed your directions because I printed a copy of them and followed each step. "Open with" was not a selection (for me) until I first opened the file. Over 6,300 directories 103,000 files, and 16.9 GB from a 30 GB hard drive located this way. I tried search for specific files and came up empty. I'm not interested in paying for this, just locating as many lost files by this method. Do you think that other free programs can find any more results? After opening each file, you have to go back to Step 2 to open the next file, and none of the names of the files correspond to any names of files I've lost. Do I write "*.*filename.doc" in the Search box to locate a specific file or something else? I've been working with this program for almost two weeks so I only ask you questions about the things I don't know, like what to write in a search box to locate a specific Word file.
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Mister2
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| sweets1953 wrote: | | After opening each file, you have to go back to Step 2 to open the next file ... | I'm puzzled by that. I can right click a file, Open With, Notepad, save the file, close Notepad and repeat with the next file in the list. I don't know why you can't do the same when you run the program.
| sweets1953 wrote: | | ... and none of the names of the files correspond to any names of files I've lost. | That would suggest that the files you are looking for are no longer recoverable.
Once you have got the list of files to recover, go to Tools, Search Files. For the 'File Mask' enter filename.doc, leave everything else as set and click Start (top left of that window).
As for other free programs finding your files, I know of no others apart from the list I posted earlier. If you find any others then try them - at this stage you have nothing to lose. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Mr2,
Obviously you have a different list of files to choose from.
Did you use the default method to choose how to get to Step 3 or did you select some other method?
Please tell me what you did to get to Step 3.
Did you right click on the right side under the "files" list of Step 3? I saw "Open with" there but it was shaded and not a choice until I first opened the file. Maybe you can send me a screenshot of your step 3?
Do other free programs find lost data differently from one another or do they all use the same method?
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Mister2
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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To get to Step 3 I did exactly as I wrote in the post with the screenshots - I clicked Next. At this point I see a small window pop up in the centre of the screen that shows all the entries like "3844219:4D 5A 90 00 00 00 20 00" scrolling up in a long list. Then the screen appears as shown in Step 3 of that post, listing the files found in a more intelligible way.
I then right click on a filename in the right hand window and the context menu appears. I showed this in Step 4. You will not see all the entries in that popup context menu on your system as some depend on other utilities being installed (the entry 'Call DiskExplorer' is one). Have you tried pressing Ctrl + Enter (together) to see if the Open With command works?
Also, open My Computer, navigate to My Documents and right click on any file there. If the Open With choice does not appear then there is something going wrong in Windows itself.
Data recovery programs work in different ways but basically they all search the disk for data (files or file fragments) and then try to show the results in a form which we can read and understand. One program may work where another fails. That is why I urge you to try all the programs I mentioned and to experiment with them (the Help files can be very instructional). _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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mr2,
I did not see a step 4 only step 3 (recovery tree). How did you get to a step 4? In step 3 I right click on a file only to see open, copy, show info, rename, Call diskexplorer, & search files as options available when I right click a file. Open with does not become an option for me until I open a file, then I can open with and choose every program but none of them on the files i selected show any information about the file except gibberish.
The only program I had luck with so far was Pandora
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Mister2
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: |
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sweets1953,
You did see a Step 4 - you made a statement about it in your post here .
You have not let me know if the Open With option is available from My Computer.
You have not told me what you do to 'open a file' before right clicking.
I know a little about data recovery. I know nothing about telepathy. If you don't tell me exactly what you are doing and what is happening on your computer (as I have tried to do when explaining things) then I cannot provide meaningful assistance.
As you get on better with Pandora then I suggest you stick with that application. If you still can't recover your data then it is time to accept the fact that you have lost those files and move on. A rather harsh learning experience, admittedly, but you now have your external drive to back up your data so you should be safe from this kind of mistake in the future. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: |
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I thought you meant an actual Step 4 of GetBackData, there is none. Step 4 was your terminology for what to do with Step 3 of GetBackData.
We need to be on the same page here.
Open with, (via Control + Enter) is an option with the my documents in My Computer.
To open a file in GetBackData I right click on a file and select Open.
One more thing, there are over 109,000 files found with GetBackData, the last 45 files can utilize Open With (some files are in red, what does this mean?), all the other files found do not allow Open With. I would like to continue with GetBackData.
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Mister2
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| sweets1953 wrote: | | We need to be on the same page here. | Agreed.
Check the bottom left of the screen, just above the 'Back' button for a key to the filename colours.
If you don't have the Open With option then all you can do is Open and save any data that you find, then stitch it all together manually. I know of no other solution. I repeat that I think that your data is beyond 'simple' retrieval methods.
All I can suggest is that you experiment with GetDataBack (in particular read through the Help topics) and view any positive result as a bonus. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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MR2,
Since I will always have this hard drive I will continue to experiment with varoius programs for for file retrieval. If I know the name of the missing Word file, would I always type, *.*filename.doc in the Search box of any file recovery program?
If I don't remember the missing Word file would I always type, *.*.doc in the search box of any file retireval program?
Is the prefix, *.* universal for all file retrieval programs, once I run the program and locate all the lost files? Thank you.
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Mister2
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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The * character is called a 'wildcard' and stands for any (or no) characters in the filename. Thus mister*.doc would find files named mister.doc, mister2.doc, mister2123456789.doc and so on. Similarly, mister2.* would find files named mister2, mister2.doc, mister2.exe, mister2.xls and so on.
In your case you need to use the following:
If you know the filename then type the full name, for example MyLetter.doc
If you remember only part of the filename then type * for the bit you don't remember.
For example MyLetter*.doc will find MyLetter.doc, MyLetter01.doc, MyLetterToYou.doc and so on.
Typing *Letter.doc will find MyLetter.doc, YourLetter.doc, HerLetter.doc and so on.
If you use *.* then the program will search for every file and so is not much use. This applies to virtually all programs that allow you to search for a particular file. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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MR2,
Will typing, *Tax Reporting.doc find things like TAXREPORTING.doc, Tax Reporting.doc, or will typing, *CDR, find variations like CDR2.doc,
CDR-2.doc, CDR 2.doc. In other words all variations and combinations if I cannot remember exactly the wordfile name?
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Mister2
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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No, you need to use the * to represent the character(s) that may or may not be there.
tax*reporting.doc will do what you need. Even better, I would use tax*report*.doc, which would find the filenames you mentioned and also things like Tax Reports.doc, TaxReport01.doc and even Tax reportinj.doc in case it got spelled wrong.
For the case of cdr.doc you need to use cdr*.doc or *cdr*.doc - that last one will fine any filename containing 'cdr' or 'CDR'. _________________ Never stop learning
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sweets1953
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Mr2,
On a different subject, what would you type in a trusted sites box to indicate all forms of a website that are allowed to be viewed? For instance to cover all forms of netzero.com would you type. *.netzero.com?
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