I'm glad this board is here. Hope to see Knujon and Knujon users post here.

Thank you Castlecops and Knujon!

Regards,

Alan

Hey you are the first one to have found and posted in here.

And I'm the third

No, I'm the third. Paul didn't have to find this forum since he must have put it here.

So why the big secret Paul?

Hello All, Knujon here again

Just a general FYI: we read every email, blog posting, question, and concern that relates to our project. So, if you are waiting information or an answer please be assured that it will be addressed.

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Forwarding Emails/Rejects and Bounce-backs

This is obviously an issue that is very important to us. As stated previously the reason we do not host our own mail server is not because we don’t know how, it is because not hosting it has certain advantages(and disadvantages, obviously).

For those wonder why we have not done anything about this yet, it is because we are carefully considering various options and testing them before we make a decision. The decision is coming soon.

To answer a question: Knujon_us@yahoo.com is in fact a legitimate alternative reporting address.

To clarify or correct some statements made here: Our ISP blocking is based on a list of blacklisted sites obtained from spamhaus. Emails with this links to these sites are rejected. Knujon has several problems with this model.

1. We believe that content blocking is a seriously flawed model for addressing the spam problem:
http://www.knujon.com/pushdown.html
http://www.knujon.com/contentblock.html

2. ISPs have put themselves in the position of censor and moderator for email users. ISPs interrupt communications without checking with user. We can appreciate the difficult position they are in, they are under siege from security threats and the bulk of users are demanding that they do “something” about it. Many legitimate emails are blocked and some service providers have been sued because of this(Verizon). If they want to continue to block suspicious email that’s fine, but DO SOMETHING WITH THE EMAIL AFTER instead of deleting it.

3. The block and delete model does not protect the email user. Junk mail still gets through and the irony is that blocking keeps the user from then reporting it.

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Reports

Some may be wondering why they haven’t received their reports yet or why the reports have not changed since the previous week. There are several answers.

Because of increased membership we have had to completely overhaul our reporting system. We have streamlined and simplified the procedure on our end which will save us much time. Everyone with current reportable data will receive those reports today or Monday.

Some Knujon members report mostly stock junk or “Nigerian” scams. These do no produce data that appears in our reports. Does this mean we are not processing them or taking action? No, it just means that our report format does not currently allow these items to be listed. Will this be the case always? No, we will modify the reports to include this information eventually. Keep forwarding non-site specific junk mail to us.

We have received many new formats of from our newer users that we had not seen before and some formats were causing errors in the process that had to be addressed before we could proceed. This is a critical point of testing as it allows us to expand and improve the overall process!

Some junk email is not processed immediately for reports because they require special attention, but they are being processed. As stated we do not rely on a single method for addressing the junk mail problem and some samples fall into “interesting” categories that are held over.


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Applications

We are aware that many have applied an not received word yet. We are now looking at a one-week turn around for applications. This is mainly because we attempt to verify the applications before accepting them.


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Getting Information Out There(Issues, questions, Thunderbird/Mailwasher/BlueFrog)

We receive a number of questions about the methods used for reporting junk mail, namely the use for Thunderbird or a modified BlueFrog module. We are acutely aware that many of our participants have important technical expertise and tips to share with other users. CastleCops has been gracious enough to create dedicated forums for Knujon, one public one for registered members. We are looking forward to using this a place where concerned individuals can trade and discuss useful information.

We have relied on our site and our weekly reports to get information out, but CastleCops has proven to be vital location for addressing email security threats. Cooperation between Knujon and CastleCops will hopefully continue and grow.

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General Information about Knujon’s Process

Knujon is more a tortoise, rather than hare, approach to the problem. We are a plodding, long-term approach to junk mail. We are constantly reviewing and revising our model. Like street crime, spam will never be completely eliminated. Email-borne security threats, however, can be managed and reduced. Right now, the problem is not being managed or addressed properly.

Thank you for your participation and especially thanks to CastleCops!

So -- is the Knujon_us@yahoo.com address the best one for reporting spam now? I have been sending reports as single emails with lots of attached spams... so they all get bounced and I have to resort to FTP (all delaying the reporting process).

Thanks!
secondwheel

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