I truly am sorry that you took my post that way. I was trying to point out to you that your interest and abilities appear to be above average and that what is working well for you doesn't negate the need to let people that still use these legacy systems know that support is coming to an end and they may need to consider a change. What you quoted in no way indicates that you should not feel free to post here. It seems that you may not have understood what I wrote.

I apologize for offending you and you, of course, are completely free to continue as you wish but this thread is specific to addressing MS's announcement that support for these O.S 's will be dropped. Bill Bright has been a highly respected member of this site and shares your right to post here. Your posting seemed to indicate a lack of knowledge about the site in general and the manner in which these forums are used. I attempted to rectify that.


Please note that I am on the SRT. I am not a 1st Responder and I would not want you to smear their team because of your misunderstanding with me. If you still feel the need, I would be happy to summon a moderator for you. Do you have a preference?

ZZ

Bellgamin - please note that it was not a matter of me "having the decency" to do anything - other than to shelter other readers from your feculent blather!

It is you who has no clue as to the workings of this forum. It is you who has continued to drive this thread off topic, even after it was pointed out to you several times that this topic is NOT about your continued use of your preferred OS and after you were asked several times to start a new thread. This is a security site and as such, the overall core values of this site is that of providing the readers information they need to stay current and safe.

ZZ is NOT trying to drive people to switch - he is trying to drive the thread back on topic. But you remain obstinate - to the point of demonstrated infantilism! It is YOU that needs to understand the rules of forum etiquette - and understand that is RUDE to hijack threads, especially in the manner that you have persistently done. Your childish name calling, your inability and unwillingness to follow the guidelines, your spinning of the facts are what makes your behavior unwelcomed. Your pretentious "translation" of ZZ's comments further demonstrates your misguided methods. ZZ went out of the way to point out your

And yet you continue - this thread is in shamble because you drove it off topic then you refused to allow it be diverted back - insisting you know all about this forum, rather than someone with 7000+ posts. You attempt to discredit others by announcing they are not members of the Win9x usergroup, as though that were relevant, one, and two, implying that you were and therefore that makes you more important or knowledgeable! I ignored that frivolous remark but now that you have continued your rants let's make sure that everyone understands your methods and note that CastleCops does not even have a usergroup for Windows9x users - as anyone can clearly see by clicking on Usergroups at the top of this page! Do note, as I already stated, that I am responsible for many client machines that do run legacy operating systems, so I assure you, I am quite capable of implementing the best security possible for any PC, regardless of the OS in use. But that does not change the fact that people of all sorts and skill-sets use those machines, most of whom are not experts. Nor does it change the fact, in spite of your misguided perceptions, XP is more secure than any non-NT based Windows OS - even in the best maintained systems and it is important for CastleCops users to understand that.

You further attempt to justify your hijacking by claiming the title does not "preclude" other discussions. That's ludicrous - it does not preclude discussing alternative browsers or Windows 95, or jet airplanes, but they would be inappropriate as well.

And then you threaten to call in a moderator because you don't like ZZ's, a respected CastleCops staff member, comments. Please do! But of course if you knew anything about the workings of CastleCops, if you bothered learn about its core values, how the forums worked, etc. you would already know what the Blue Card (that little blue dot in the upper right of every post) was for.

I see now that ZZ has offered once again to summon a moderator for you. This is good - then perhaps all the discussion on how to protect legacy systems can be spit off into its own thread perhaps titled, "Protecting Legacy Windows Systems" - as I have requested early on.

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Bill, AFE7Ret
Freedom is NOT Free!

Okay, ZZ & BB. You win. The cronys 1, the users 0. Take this thread & do with it what you want.

Good and friendly Win95/98/ME forums at TechGuys

http://forums.techguy.org/20-windows-95-98-me/

http://forums.techguy.org/tech-tips-tricks/420218-winme-users-only.html

Bellgamin,
You still don't understand. It's not about winners or losers. It's about respecting opinions that do not agree with yours. You did not start the thread and your sense of ownership of it is questionable.

Please take some time to understand this. This forum doesn't belong to either of us. It is open to anyone. As an open forum, anyone is welcome to post here. I have no wish to "take this thread & do with it what you want", but as a staff member, part of my job is to educate people about how the site works. That was the idea behind my original post. Your ignorance of how this site works is more apparent with each post and this is what I was trying to address. I had no intention of posting again until I saw that you completely misunderstood. Originally, I assumed that I was at fault and tried to address it in a civil manner but your response has convinced me that you are intentionally obtuse.

I apologize to Quietman7 for my part in the disruption of his thread and I would hope that you would have it in you to accept responsibility for your role too.

I will gladly locate a Mod because you have requested one but I cannot say if they will change this to your liking or not. It will be their call.

ZZ

While Microsoft's announcement and it's implications is particularly germane to this forum, I'm locking this topic to allow folks to reflect on their comments. Please be assured that everyone is welcome here as long as differing opinions can be accepted in a mature way.

I've unlocked this in the expectation that folks will have reflected on their previous comments and be willing to accept differing opinions.