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AnthW
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 Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 16 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| JeanInMontana wrote: | Anthony one of your promotion sites is offering up teen porn. Teens are considered children until at least 18 and in some cases 21, which makes this child porn. hxxp://www.onlyfreepornvideos.com/ IP address 81.0.250.249
How can you justify that? Or is that the reason you have that site hosted in the Czech Republic? |
All models used in our promotional materials are over 18 y.o.
Now, if you have a proof of the fact that any model on our website is less than 18, you can email an official complain to webmaster@[domain where you found illegal adult content] and we will forward it to the content provider. Then you can get confirmation from them.
We host some of our sites at CZ because bandwidth is cheaper in EU.
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JeanInMontana
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paperghost
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 Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 180
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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This is interesting, in a spectacularly offensive fashion (link is safe). Is this something you can do something about? _________________ Vitalsecurity.org
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AnthW
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| JeanInMontana wrote: | [color=indigo]That doesn't seem to be true at all Anthony. In fact the Czech Republic is the 19th highest priced nation in a list of 23.
Please see the attached file.
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So? Whats your point?
I see a nice chart for EU providers. Did I say that Czech Republic is the cheapest country in EU or what? I said that bandwidth in EU is cheaper (than in US). If we find a better hosting deal we will move our servers there.
I really dont understand what difference does is make for you anyway.
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AnthW
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| paperghost wrote: | | This is interesting, in a spectacularly offensive fashion (link is safe). Is this something you can do something about? |
As I have written before, we dont operate that domain and we dont use word 'codec'. That software is not ours.
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AnthW
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I have an update:
1. New version of EULA was implemented yesterday, as I promised. You can check.
2. New 'easy-to-use' uninstallers are ready and will be online tomorrow. Everything will be easily removable from Control Panel.
3. Website and contact e-mail will be ready on weekend.
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JeanInMontana
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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My point is, if you were really looking for the cheapest place to host your porn site it wouldn't be in the Czech Republic. However, if your looking for a place that child porn is legal to possess that is the Czech Republic. It is illegal to distribute it. But, no one is going to nail you on that very easily because your hiding behind Privacy Protection.org.
You admit the site is yours, and we all know your distributing Zlob. Why not grab that extra bit of the market to infect with a bit of child porn?
What difference does it make for me? Are you for real? Is that your way of saying I should shut up? Tough luck ain't gonna happen.
The difference it makes for me is I would like to see all pedophiles and those that enable go straight to hell in a handbasket.
I have lost track of of how many infected machines I have helped clean up with Zlob. The story is almost always the same, the victim was alerted they needed to download something in order to view a video.
The point is Anthony your not telling the truth. _________________ MontanaMenagerie
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AnthW
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| JeanInMontana wrote: | My point is, if you were really looking for the cheapest place to host your porn site it wouldn't be in the Czech Republic. However, if your looking for a place that child porn is legal to possess that is the Czech Republic. It is illegal to distribute it. But, no one is going to nail you on that very easily because your hiding behind Privacy Protection.org.
You admit the site is yours, and we all know your distributing Zlob. Why not grab that extra bit of the market to infect with a bit of child porn?
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I really dont want to argue with you, but lets operate with facts, ok?
CP is illegal in Czech Republic too. Its strange to hear that it is legal here. Where did you get that information from?
As I have written before, you can email your complaint about CP to us or someone else and we will defnetly reply to it. I decided to save some time for both of us and I gone through content at onlyfreepornvideos.com. I found a couple of pics that might have looked like underage to you.
http://onlyfreepornvideos.com/st/thumbs/041/0590457988.jpg This one?
Ok, link to conent provider release info and 2257 records:
http://xxxcontentdirect.com/showitem.cfm?sku=2002178¤tpage=1
http://onlyfreepornvideos.com/st/thumbs/004/0989566216.jpg May be this one?
Ok, http://hdvadultstore.com/sets.php?by=1150804263
2257: http://hdvadultstore.com/info.php?p=2257
These are just examples. If you feel that any other content at our site is illegal, you can point to that file and i will have someone get you content release info and 2257 info. Its ok with me.
As for prices, well we coudnt find any better deal than we have now.
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JeanInMontana
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I am operating with facts! If you think I am going to click one of your links your crazy. You shouldn't even be posting that crap here.
I'm not going to argue with you either. There is no point.
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http://www.radio.cz/en/article/88189
Austrian police this week busted a huge international pornography network involving more than 2,360 suspects from 77 countries. Sixty-three Czechs were among those who downloaded child-porn from paid-web sites but shockingly enough the Austrians can expect little cooperation from the Czech police. The Czech Republic is one of the few countries in Europe where it is not a criminal offence to download or possess child pornography which means that the suspects will get off scot-free.
http://www.czech.cz/en/news/domestic-news/possession-of-child-pornography-to-be-criminal-offence/
Possession of child pornography to be criminal offence
June 14, 2007 | ČTK
Prague - Possession of child pornography will probably be a new criminal offence punishable with up to two years in prison in the Czech Republic, according to an amendment to the penal law that the Chamber of Deputies passed on Wednesday.
The bill is yet to be discussed by the Senate and signed by the president. |
_________________ MontanaMenagerie
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Oldfrog
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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From http://www.czech.cz/en/news/domestic-news/possession-of-child-pornography-to-be-criminal-offence/
| Quote: | At present possession of child pornography is not unlawful in the Czech Republic.
Unlike countries such as Austria, the USA, Britain and the Netherlands, where the possession and acquisition of child porn is a crime, in the Czech Republic only those who further spread such materials commit crime. |
(emphasis added) _________________
MS MVP Security 2006-2008
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mechBgon
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Joined: May 13, 2007 Posts: 216
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is very interesting that the takedown effort has resulted in the perpetrators coming here to haggle for some semblance of legitimacy. "We'll change this, we'll change that." But they had no scruples about using their previous tactics until their money-making scheme was at risk.
Ignore him and keep up the pressure, that's what I say. Love of money is the root of all evil, says the big JC, and maybe He's right. _________________ Vista x64 · non-Admin account + Software Restriction Policy · Kaspersky AntiVirus 7 · Windows Firewall · full hardware DEP · 64-bit IE7 PM
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JeanInMontana
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, and that is just one more reason to hide your identity isn't it?
There is still one live link in his post, thanks for disabling the others. _________________ MontanaMenagerie
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tacktick
MIRT Hunter Premium Member
 Joined: May 19, 2007 Posts: 624 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Anthony do you approve of spamming by your 'affiliates'?
There is alot of forum and comment spamming that ultimately
directs to your software.
For example: (extreme porn warning!)
http://www.elmslieschool.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=11902&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
These links direct to:
http://porn0site.org/
for example: http://porn0site.org/hardcore-porn
this redirects to:
http://www.selectpornvids.com
which redirects to:
http://www.hugevideoszone.com/index.php?id=1859&style=black
which links to:
http://www.freeporn-mpegs.com/mr/mixed/s3g5/movie2.php?id=1859
which installs your software:
http://www.videoactivexsetup.com/download.php?id=1859
This is only one example of the extreme amount of forum spam, comment spam and site hijackings that are out there.
This behavior is in widespread use by your 'affiliates'.
As long as this continues, there can be no favorable view of your affiliates and your software.
And as Suzi said, it is not our job to police your affiliates.
Another example is here: (warning porn)
http://www.elmslieschool.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=11777
which links to:
http://adds1.trafflow.com/a6.html
which installs your software from:
http://www.videoactivexsetup.com/download.php?id=1214
Now, I'd like to address the method in which your software is installed in the browser.
No description, details or User agreement is given on the install pages. This is unacceptable. There must be disclosure about the full details of this software before users can make an informed decision about downloading it.
These are screenshots taken from: http://todaysfreevideo.com/movies/teen/movie1.php?id=1214
Screenshot 1:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3650/zlobpopup1zo6.jpg
Along with these popups being misleading, there is no way to stop these popups, unless you click OK. This is extremely annoying. The download is also automatically started.
Screenshots 2,3,4,5:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/543/zlobpopup2se0.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/51/zlobpopup3fi5.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7796/zlobautodownloadht8.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1607/zlobpopup4ho2.jpg _________________ Analyzing, reporting and removing Malware. Fight the Scourge!
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tacktick
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 Joined: May 19, 2007 Posts: 624 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Your installer still does not provide proper disclosure.
The FTC has determined that disclosure must be given in this way:
"clear and prominent disclosure of material terms prior to and separate from any end user license agreement."
Link here:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0523130/0523130analysis061103.pdf#page=3
Your setup program has a single screen which only provides info via
the License Agreement. This is not enough, see above.
The checkbox for "I accept" is automatically checked.
Screenshot:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3513/installscreenok2.jpg
Why does the software name in the installer change?
This time it is Video AX Object, before it was something else.
I have also not heard a good reason for why new domains are registered
all the time and old ones removed. This is always very suspicious behavior.
The only thing that has changed about your software is a few things
in the license agreement, and nothing that makes any major difference.
Your software still installs about 6 things into the Add/Remove programs, some of which have misleading names.
(Security Plugin, Messenger Service sound like legitimate items)
The uninstaller for Video Ax Object only uninstalls one thing and none of the other ones.
Some of the things require a reboot to uninstall them, and even then they may not be uninstalled. This is obviously a suspicious tactic designed to keep people from uninstalling. Who wants to reboot for each single item they want to un-install?
There needs to be a way to uninstall everything with one uninstaller and one entry in the Control Panel.
Proof:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/413/uninstallbssa7.jpg
I don't even need to go into all the bad things that happen to a persons
computer once they install your software, it speaks for itself.
Unwanted rogue security software with false positives, that detects your software as bad:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3999/falsepositiveskt9.jpg
Computer hijacked:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4667/hijackedmi4.jpg
IE Hijacked and a fake 404 not found error:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5985/iehijackedhs7.jpg
System tray hijacking, with a false alerts:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8195/moresystemtraybsio7.jpg
Until all of these concerns are addressed I have nothing good to say.
It seems like the only point of your software is the hijacking and goading the user into buying fake security software. _________________ Analyzing, reporting and removing Malware. Fight the Scourge!
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Tornomizer
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 Joined: Jul 15, 2007 Posts: 1 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Hello. I'm posting anonymous (with a throw-away e-mail address and through Tor), so don't even try to find me.
To keep the discussion very technical:
- It is very clever to only admit to sites which are currently down, however I do have a very extensive history of these files. Do you or do you not admit to having a file available at the url hxxp://www.axvideosetup.com/download.php?id=1862 with a size of 70704 bytes with MD5 hash 8b440b43ea74c54ba676b34a21051d82, and with SHA1 hash e52622c2e2866e1034ae44552e535871fb4e14a4 at the date of 12th of Jul 2007? (hint: if you're not, you're lying)
- In the EULA (if you can call it that) of the mentioned installer you say that "Components bundled with our software may report to Licensor and/or its affiliates status of the installation of certain marketing modules and also generalized installation information, such as language preference and operating system version, to assist Licensor in its product development. N
o personal information will be communicated to Licensor or its affiliates during this process." (emphasis added). Fact: the included software checks a long list of adult related sites (listed below) to see if the user visited any of them (which I would assume doesn't qualify as language preference or OS version). Do you admit this?
- The strings in the executable are encrypted (albeit poorly). Why are you trying to hide them? Also, an interesting fact: the encryption used is very similar to the one employed by the recent Storm worm, suggesting that there might be a link between these two malware!
- Fact: most antiviruses put the installers you admitted to and the ones you wouldn't admit to (when you say "we don't use the word 'codec'") in the same family, which means that there are very strong resemblances between them. Having this in mind your argument is on very shaky grounds to say the least.
- Fact: the program in the install kit tries to detect the presence of VMWare (a virtual machine used by many malware researchers) and avoids executing its payload if it's detected. How can you explain this other than saying that you wish to make the analysis of you binary my malware researchers harder? (Hint: you can't!)
| AnthW wrote: |
The following domains belong to us:
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http://www.axvideosetup.com/download.php?id=1862
http://iaxobjectdownload.com/download.php?id=4058
http://installvaxobject.com/download.php?id=4040
http://www.videoaxdownload.com/download.php?id=1303
http://getimageactivex.com/download.php?id=1103
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The list of sites which are checked to be present in the users history:
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pornmagbucks.com
boards.xbiz.com
thinkreel.com
videosboard.com
gfy.com
gaytraffic.nl
gallerytrafficservice.com
germesia.com
jmbsoft.com
videoscash.com
krawl.biz
forum.krawl.com
askdamagex.com
gaymarketforum.com
peppersboard.com
extremebullshit.com
pornstarkings.com
ynotbob.com
ynotmasters.com
adultchamber.com
foogie.com
pornresource.com
netpond.com
webmastersarea.com
gaywebmasterchat.com
bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com
master-x.com
crutop.nu
tgpalliance.com
bbs.mediumpimpin.com
bigboynetwork.com
greenguyandjim.com
bbs.gofuckyourself.net
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