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saintsman1959

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject:
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I think I must have another issue, whenever I try and go to www.bluesecurity.com , I get taken to the msn search page and it says "Can't Find "www.bluesecurity.com"".

From work I could get to the main page (same url) without a problem. I didn't know if there had been enough time for the dns to be resolved or if there was something else that I needed to do to be able hit it on my end here at home..

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject:
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This is what I get if I try tracert or ping commands:

tracert bluesecurity.com

Tracing route to bluesecurity.com [127.0.0.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms localhost [127.0.0.1]

Trace complete.

ping bluesecurity.com

Pinging bluesecurity.com [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject:
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Looks like the Domain Name Servers (DNS) at your ISP have not yet been updated to resolve Blue Security. Normally takes 24 hours after the site has been added to work it's way throughout the DNS system. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject:
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Ok.....I appreciate the info....I hate to be a pain, I'm just anxious to get blue frog back up and working....

I HATE SPAM!!!

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject:
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You could statically map the hosts to their IPs in your hosts file.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject:
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I'm probably better off waiting for the dns servers to resolve.........it's late here and I'm not positive how to do that....

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Blue Frog Shut down
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To Blue Security:

First, Thank you so much for all you have done.

Second, Are you daft? Why the hell are you quitting now?

"PharmaMaster wants to take away our right to be let alone. We will not let this happen."

Good job.

"Our answer to those criminals should be one - we will not be discouraged; We will continue to exercise our right to opt-out of spam."

Your answer was to cry like girly men and run to mommy.

Now is the time to hit the hardest. It makes sense to say that you are shutting down without really shutting down in order to keep the internet from ripping apart (just until you can locate PharmaMaster) I hope this is what you are doing.

This has generated the media buzz needed to give you even more leverage. If you do this right, you could reach NBC, CNN, FOX and others. This could make you unstoppable. Instead you have chosen to shut down.

Why is there anachary on the internet? The reason is the lack of consequences--or lack of enforcement. You have found the enforcement needed to be able to properly police the internet.

As great as this program was, you did not properly market it. This program could have stopped spyware, ad-ware spam and other malicious traffic. This is an estimated 60% of our bandwidth at my organization/school. I'd imagine that others face this kind of traffic as well. In addition, this costs end-users money. I have re-formatted many zombie machienes, from both virus sendig e-mail and just general ad-ware mayhem. This means that if you quantify this in dollars, you could potentially get companies like google, microsoft, HP and other large providers to use their spare bandwidth to fight for this cause.

Why? Bottom line: It would save them money. Maybe it wouldn't be profitable in the short term, but it would be in the long term.

If properly marketed, this could be a de-facto standard. Then you could laugh in the face of people like PharmaMaster and then crush them. Your marketing sucked. I never saw and ad for Blue Frog. No TV commercials; nothing. The only reason you ever got users in the first place was due to media attention by places like the slashdot community.

Thank you DangerNerd for informing me about Black Frog and Red Frog. Rest assured that those projects will be frequented by me.

Look: You didn't declare this war, PharmaMaster did. You weren't the japanese, you were pearl harbor. You were innocently minding you business when you were violently and savagely attacked. Instead of putting your hands in the air and speaking french ("I surrender") at PharmaMasters little maffia it's time to drop and a-bomb on their a--.

This is the most critical time--The time to attack. Please don't give up. Please continue on!

You have the potential to revolutionize the internet. What we need is an online government--A represnetative government that can make internet laws, and enforce them. Businesses would not fight this as this would mean less viruses, less spyware, less spam and less anarchy. This would mean that they can actually do business. It would be in everyone's best interest. If things got out of hand, you could simply create a seperate internet which is segmented from the first and people would have their choice of internet. You have the potential to make the work a better place doing that--using your program. This will only work however, if you continue and show that this will work and that spammers can't stand up against you and win.

"We're helping the community fight the Blue Independence War. We fight for our freedom from spammers and cybercriminals. This is our big chance to reclaim the Internet. We must not let it slip from our hands,"

PLEASE DON'T QUIT!
PLEASE DON'T LET THIS SLIP FROM YOUR HANDS!

PS for anyone who cares, here is all the information about PharmaMaster. Go bust some kneecaps Smile j/k:

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK5125
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK6138
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK6643
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK5514

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject:
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A technician who defuses a bomb is a hero.
A technician who defuses a bomb in a crowded theater instead of evacuating everyone is an idiot with a messianic complex.
It wasn't cowardly to back down when Blue Security could see so much collateral damage to people and institutions that had not signed on for that kind of hassle.

It's going to have to be handled by law enforcement at their own pace at this point. Meanwhile, I'm reporting everything I receive to anyone with an email address, so the heat won't come off the sponsors just because Pharmamaster killed the Frog.

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swtc

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject:
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It's easy to ask BF to continue the fight.

It's hard to deal with what the ramifications of that fight may have been. How many are on DSL or Cable connections which might have been targeted for attack? Too many.

How many had personal websites where they had posted links to BF? Also potential attack targets. Too many.

After thinking about it, I'm doing two things right now. I'm looking into other means for reporting ALL spam I receive to appropriate authorities. Spam cop just doesn't do it for me and uce@ftc.gov is useless. So I'm on the hunt for a tool and willing to review or consider most.

I also sat down and looked at the dns setups for every company my company does business with.

Try www.dnsreport.com and type in the URL.

I found two that had Open DNS servers and have 'requested' that both fix that issue. If everyone here did the same, maybe we can make a significant reduction in the number of open dns servers available for criminals to use in the type of attack perpetrated against BF.

It's something small, but a lot of companies may not be aware that their DNS can be used in an attack. If each castlecop member or BF member notifies the administrator of one open DNS to fix their server (fix information available at dnsstuff.com) then that will help make the Internet at better place.

Let's all take some positive steps toward improving this mess, and share the ideas here so others can do the same.



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AlphaCentauri

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject:
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swtc wrote:

Try dnsreports.com and type in the URL.

That URL doesn't work.

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject:
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Sorry, URL is dnsreport.com

No S.

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