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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Facilitate Spamcop confirmations
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It would be really nice if there was a button, "open all spamcop confirmations" that would find the emails from spamcop and open the link to the spam confirmation, ie, the link that isn't the one for adding fuel.

If that isn't possible, it would be nice if there were some way to keep mailwasher on top while manually opening those links so you can just go down the list and click on the links instead of having to keep clicking on the MWP icon in the tray when the browser window opens on top so you can go to the next spamcop confirmation email.

My home computer is just slow enough that I can click on the link, click on white space in the preview window (minimal movement of the mouse), then click on the next email, and it is very easy to confirm a lot of spam quickly. My work computer (not shared with kids games!) is too fast, and I have to move the mouse to the tray to click on the MWP icon between each spamcop email.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject:
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Would it not be better to use Quick Reporting?

If you have a reason for not doing this it may be worth downloading PowerMenu. This adds some options to the context menu when you right-click on a window title bar (or the icon in the taskbar). One of the options is to set the window to "Always on top" i.e. you can temporarily set MW to Always on top, click all the links you desire (which will open behind the MW window allowing you to open several at once), then remove the "Always on top" setting and minimise MW..


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject:
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IMO SpamCops should facilitate a one-step authenticated reporting mechanism. IMO even the quick reporting option is for the birds since it requires me to revisit the same tired spam.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject:
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Ike, not sure what you mean about revisiting same spam with quick reporting, I just did a filter to delete the "results of your submission" messages. All that I do now is tick the spamcop report box in MW and it is reported.

Once you qualify for quick reporting it is easy as mole reporting and does send reports to the abuse@ address so if they care they can stop the spam.

Folks that want to report the spamming websites still must do normal reporting as there is no method better than the human eye to spot a spammer trying a Joe job on an innocent website.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject:
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Shocked Maybe I'm behind the times on this one Stan. There's no email received to confirm the report? There's no need to confirm each reported spam by clicking a link? How then is the reporter authenticated?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject:
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Quick reporting is authenticated like all other spamcop submissions, using the unique e-mail address you are assigned to submit to.

The reply message (with a link to click) for standard reporting isn't to authenticate you to spamcop but rather to allow you to directly open the web page that allows you to validate the links that spamcop will send reports on.

You don't need to open that e-mail or click the link and can delete the messages if you don't care for them. If you open your spamcop home page and click the "unreported spam" link there it will cycle you through all pending reports. That is a heck of a lot faster than dinking with the reply messages and links.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject:
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It's not as fast as going down the list in MWP and clicking on every one, then clicking on the confirmation windows one after another once they are all open. That way you don't have to wait for one to finish processing before going to the next.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject:
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Right, if you could open a bunch of firefox tabs or explorer windows with one click that would speed up normal reporting a lot.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject:
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My only problem with quick reporting is that it forces me to be a little be more diligent in ensuring a spam has not already been tagged by SC. With the slow method, if one had been reported already, the confirmation email process indicated that and it was no problem aborting the reporting.

I don't really know if I need to be that conscientious, but considering the warnings about re-reporting spam and how that may be considered abusing the SC system, I tend to take a little extra "hovering time" upfront - but that extra time is more than made up for later by just deleting the reply messages. Am I being overly cautious?

Oh, and another thing - with quick reporting, I do not get a one-or-one email back. I might submit 20 and only get one or two - I like that.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject:
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Bill_Bright wrote:
I don't really know if I need to be that conscientious, but considering the warnings about re-reporting spam and how that may be considered abusing the SC system, I tend to take a little extra "hovering time" upfront - but that extra time is more than made up for later by just deleting the reply messages. Am I being overly cautious?


Yes. "Re-reporting" refers to forwarding the same spam email more than once. If you set MWP to delete at the same time it forwards to spamcop.net, that won't happen. In fact the only way it could happen is if you close MWP and relaunch it without deleting the spam you have already reported, as it won't let you report twice.

But if you get 15 copies of the same email, report all 15. That's one of the ways spamcop confirms it is a bulk emailing and not just a single user making an error. It doesn't matter if it is already on the spamcop blocklist -- the blocklisting normally lasts 24 hours; if the spammer is still sending spam 23 hours later, your submission will extend the blocklisting time longer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject:
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One or both of us are confused.

I am not worried about me sending a report twice for the same piece of spam - I understand how to avoid that.

My concerns are reporting spam that MW has already reported as tagged by SC - hence the reason for extended "hovering time". Are you saying I should submit reports on those too? If so, that will sure make my processing/reporting chores a whole lot easier - I won't have to hover-click, hover-click, hover-don't click... the SC box.


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Bill_Bright wrote:
Are you saying I should submit reports on those too?


The only reason not to report the "Blacklisted by Spamcop" mails is if you want fewer confirmations to process. But it's perfectly proper to report senders already on the block list.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject:
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Than since I use quick reporting, I see no reason not to report them - I thought that was something frowned on by SC. Thanks.


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If you report a server already on the block list spamcop will bump the expire time on the listing. It is good to report everything if you have the time.


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Makes perfect sense - I don't know why I thought otherwise - quinquagenarian cranial flatulence relapse, I guess. Thanks.


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