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Suggestion to make "undelete" work with more ISPs
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoring email
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I've been usng MWP for years and I don't understand why one must have an email resent to restore it. Most of the time, when I want to restore an email, I'm simply interested in the textual components (headers and body), not in any icons, graphics, etc.


Options are nice but normally the idea of a restore operation is to put something back the way it was after it has been updated/deleted. So to that end, I understand the rationale of mailing something back although I'd have no problem if it was mailed back as an attachment since my mail client allows me to convert the attachment to a mail message.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject:
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Options are nice but normally the idea of a restore operation is to put something back the way it was

But it's not really a restore since it only sends back some of the original message. IMHO in most cases this is not going to achieve that end.
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MailWasher Pro will only restore as many lines of the email as set by your spam throttle settings.

Yes an attachment would work too, but I've never truely understood the point of trying to re-send the email when a simple data dump would suffice in most cases and would be infinetly simpler.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject:
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But it's not really a restore since it only sends back some of the original message. IMHO in most cases this is not going to achieve that end.
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MailWasher Pro will only restore as many lines of the email as set by your spam throttle settings.

Yes, but in that case, Mail Washer didn't have the entire message so of course it couldn't restore the entire message. So it only restored what was deleted. Every single one of the messages I ever restored have come back in their entirety - of course the feature isn't used that often.

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Yes an attachment would work too, but I've never truely understood the point of trying to re-send the email when a simple data dump would suffice in most cases and would be infinetly simpler.

Because what if the message was a special type such as an Outlook meeting invitation? A data dump would be awkward. What if it's something that needs a response? Why make the user have to reconstruct a new message where a simple "respond" would be so much easier? Remember, no assumptions can be made on what was deleted - only that the user made a mistake and wants it back the way it was.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject:
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All of the what-ifs you suggest are true, but I humbly submit that they are the exceptional cases, not the rule. I am not against the idea of being able to restore via email, only that I think it is overkill for the majority of cases and doesn't work without significant "work arounds" for most users due to how ISPs are protecting their resources (and rightly so.)

So please don't read this as an argument, only a suggestion from one of many many users that find this feature unusable as it is currently implemented. I think we can all agree to some extent, that this feature has been broken for a long time and needs attention.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject:
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I believe there is a utility that will let you look at or copy messages from your recycle bin, look for it in the general forum.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject:
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Smile Kool. I'll check it out. Thx.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject:
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Or one could write a utility to extract the msg (the part that MWP grabbed) from the trash.txt file....

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