BiNgO...

Can't you see that Eugene doesn't see religion as you do. I mean no disrespect when I say that because you do and have posted many good/moral posts, but then I found your posts a tad crazy...remeber...NO disrespect. This is for Eugene.

He just doesn't understand where you are coming from & vica versa & that can cause problems between religions.


I'm really sorry if I had to put it that way, but I did for Eugene.

Take Care, God Bless & Peace!

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Enegue,

I think that what you think is wrong.
Thinking about what you said about being a spectator.

I think if you look at my picture showing the mask.
You will see that we can both see the picture.
But that does not change our relation to Mammon that I described.

esacnitsuj,

No offense, but all you do is brighten up the place.
A smiley, a joke, a hello.
And you critisize those who use this forum for what it's here for.
Confused?
Just widen your view, it can hold both our characters.

BINGO...


That's like saying that saying that Eugene IS against your religion and You are against Eugene's religion.

No hypocrisy please. I get enough

Sorry again if I offended you ToToGroTo

Take Care & God Bless Peace!

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David,

I will define Crazy. Just for You.

Crazy, as defined by Psychitrists.
In their Manual. I read it myself.
Means this.
- You are out of Sync with the Established Lockstep.

Define Lockstep: (a standard procedure that is followed mindlessly) "the union's support had been in lockstep for years"
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=lockstep

If you corrupt this Lockstep, then you are called Crazy.
People can get influence by this out of tune singer.
People can get influenced by a Monty Python Funny Walk.
That Funny Walk is Crazy, because it breaks norm.

Like somebody choosing to drink coffee intravienously, instead of by mouth.
Just because.

This Forum is For Religion.
In all my posts, however odd. I always am prepared to defend it with Religion.
I don't want you to leave because your not here for religion, but my eye sees you for what you are.
Only here to chat.

People like quertie when I asked them to discuss a religios topic.
They never did.
They, like you. Were smiley happy.
Full of brave words.
But I'm here for religion, not pancake meal discussions and chat.
I'm very serious here, not here to play.
No offense, David.
I like that you hang out with us.

Now Enegue is talking about everything but the scripture I pointed to.
He wants to chat about mirrors.
And my casting a shadow on him and thinking psychological thought.
But I'll tell you a secret, David.
I'm ignorant, and when people talk psychology they do not talk to me, but Jesus.
And there is a catch to that, David.
It shows a root truth, about what is in the heart of that person using fancy thoughts on such a person as me.
Jesus knows it, I know it. And know,, David. I pray you know it.
I tried to show him, but he will not look.

And do you know why I don't chat, David.
Because. (nods head).

I like chatting with you, David, and just because we chat doesn't mean that you don't make good and valid points about religion. Please continue to chat with us about religion and all those other topics that touch our lives and our views. I'd enjoy chatting with you too, bingo, if I could ever figure out what you're talking about. Speaking of crazy, has either of you read Jana Levin's book about Alan Turing and Kurt Goedel?

Now this is something I can speak about from experience! (& Wog I haven't read that book but I will on Your recommendation.)

Now crazy - & I speak from experience here so all You Misstra-Know-It-Alls ... (& You can ask them 'bout crazy-making if You really wanna go there, but a little advice, make sure You really wanna go there)

Welllll, y'know how I'm a little nervous around some Doctors & all? With some of their bizarre testing procedures & poking & prodding & hurting & all? Well, with Mind Doctors it's just the opposite! I just Love them to pieces! I must say tho, I have confounded a few of them

I just Love any kind of knowledge leading to information about how the Mind works. & I feel free to experiment on myself. I'm very careful tho & I really don't like to f*** with other people's minds 'cause I don't think that's very nice. This is the thing tho that's tough about this kind of research. It's really hard to get real, true, hard evidence. There are many reasons for that & most of them are due to our human limitations (& lots of other things too including poor or invalide testing procedures)]

Red

Blue

Black

Bye!

Love,
JoAnn

Hi All

We are all a tad Crazy in our own ways, but trying to convert someone to thier ways is just plain wrong.

A recipe for disaster. Yes I believe in religion & had talks to you about it, so I'm not just on here all happy smiley.

I did notice YOU didn't welcome me back from being near dead?

How religious is that. That is crazy.

Why do you think Eugene & you had a talk about his beliefs & yours?

Perhaps he's not ready yet to indulge in what you say about religion, e.g. the dove hiding as a serpent & vica versa. We
have gotten along & have agreed on many posts you posted, but not all!

It's like Eugene talking about mirrors or what have you. Perhaps he just wanted to get a religious point across. I didn't see that post.

Eugene talks about different issues as well & you say you are only on here for religion & nothing else? How boring. You got to have a sense of humour or we'd all go litereally crazy + you never asked or I never told you whether or not I believe in Jesus Christ.

I do believe in Jesus Christ. I believe he was a very smart man who had quite a crowd for The Sermon On The Mount. That's why the Roman Catholic Church had him crucified.

He was getting way to many followers & the RCC wasn't, so they were out for blood! Pilate did not want to have anything to do with Christ's crucifixtion, but it happened anyway because the RCC was afraid more & more people would go his way. So it was the RCC with the help of Judas find & crucify or Lord Jesus Christ.

I don't believe the part of Jesus Christs birth was for nothing. I don't believe it's an over 2000 year hoax either like some do, but that's me.

Can we please move on? I'm sure Eugene will speak with you when he's ready.

Take Care, God Bless & Peace!

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Err ... David?

Thee RCC was formed some 300 years after Christ's death. They have enough blood on their hands without adding to it.

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seafsea,

Sorry, I erred. I just the wrong info, I guess?

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It's just groups of People who think they're the only ones Here or "being of the elect" as the religionists would say. They attribute blame to other groups of People. It amounts to the same thing (& I think even EuGenie & ZZ would agree.) The thing that matters tho, is that unless someone is willing to accept responsibility for these Horrors, nothing will ever change. People seem to just want to point fingers (& no, not at the Moon - that's from another set of beliefs, & a far more harmless one at that.)

We are All here at the same Time. We are all responsible for the state of the World.

Give Peace/Piece a Chance,
Love,
JoAnn

Hi JACQ,

You literally took the words out of my mouth with that comment. And I mean really!

I think I was thinking the same thing when you posted that.

Peace!

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Quote:

"A Weak Mind Can Be Easily Controlled!" "Ni Bastori Carborundum" ©1963 SQIV

Enegue,

I will try to show you the stark contrast inherant in Mammon, then quote a scripture to you.

You are a professional, a teacher.
Contrast this with Jesus hanging on that cross, or getting spit upon.
Contrast that.

You love as a wife either one or the other.
You love as if your with your child or not.
You see parchment as if your dry.

Is the Cross your parchment, or is going home after Jesus is dead and going back to work your parchment?

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Behold, I am sending you out like sheep in the midst of wolves; be wary and wise as serpents, and be innocent (harmless, guileless, and without falsity) as doves.

Be on guard against men [whose way or nature is to act in opposition to God]; for they will deliver you up to councils and flog you in their synagogues,
And you will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a witness to bear testimony before them and to the Gentiles (the nations).

But when they deliver you up, do not be anxious about how or what you are to speak; for what you are to say will be given you in that very hour and moment,
For it is not you who are speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

Brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child; and children will take a stand against their parents and will have them put to death.

And you will be hated by all for My name's sake, but he who perseveres and endures to the end will be saved [from spiritual disease and death in the world to come].

When they persecute you in one town [that is, pursue you in a manner that would injure you and cause you to suffer because of your belief], flee to another town; for truly I tell you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

A disciple is not above his teacher, nor is a servant or slave above his master.

It is sufficient for the disciple to be like his teacher, and the servant or slave like his master. If they have called the Master of the house Beelzebub [master of the dwelling], how much more will they speak evil of those of His household.

So have no fear of them; for nothing is concealed that will not be revealed, or kept secret that will not become known.

What I say to you in the dark, tell in the light; and what you hear whispered in the ear, proclaim upon the housetops.

And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be afraid of Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell (Gehenna).

Are not two little sparrows sold for a penny? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father's leave (consent) and notice.

But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Fear not, then; you are of more value than many sparrows.

Therefore, everyone who acknowledges Me before men and confesses Me [out of a state of oneness with Me], I will also acknowledge him before My Father Who is in heaven and confess [that I am abiding in] him.

But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven.

Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

For I have come to part asunder a man from his father, and a daughter from her mother, and a newly married wife from her mother-in-law--

And a man's foes will be they of his own household.

He who loves [and takes more pleasure in] father or mother more than [in] Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves [and takes more pleasure in] son or daughter more than [in] Me is not worthy of Me;
And he who does not take up his cross and follow Me eave steadfastly to Me, conforming wholly to My example in living and, if need be, in dying also] is not worthy of Me.

Whoever finds his [lower] life will lose it [the higher life], and whoever loses his [lower] life on My account will find it [the higher life].

He who receives and welcomes and accepts you receives and welcomes and accepts Me, and he who receives and welcomes and accepts Me receives and welcomes and accepts Him Who sent Me.

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Jesus answered them, The time has come for the Son of Man to be glorified and exalted.

I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains [just one grain; it never becomes more but lives] by itself alone. But if it dies, it produces many others and yields a rich harvest.

Anyone who loves his life loses it, but anyone who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal. [Whoever has no love for, no concern for, no regard for his life here on earth, but despises it, preserves his life forever and ever.]

If anyone serves Me, he must continue to follow Me [to cleave steadfastly to Me, conform wholly to My example in living and, if need be, in dying] and wherever I am, there will My servant be also. If anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.

Now My soul is troubled and distressed, and what shall I say? Father, save Me from this hour [of trial and agony]? But it was for this very purpose that I have come to this hour [that I might undergo it].

[Rather, I will say,] Father, glorify (honor and extol) Your [own] name! Then there came a voice out of heaven saying, I have already glorified it, and I will glorify it again.

The crowd of bystanders heard the sound and said that it had thundered; others said, An angel has spoken to Him!

Jesus answered, This voice has not come for My sake, but for your sake.

Now the judgment (crisis) of this world is coming on [sentence is now being passed on this world]. Now the ruler (evil genius, prince) of this world shall be cast out (expelled).

And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw and attract all men [Gentiles as well as Jews] to Myself.

If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If you belonged to the world, the world would treat you with affection and would love you as its own. But because you are not of the world [no longer one with it], but I have chosen (selected) you out of the world, the world hates (detests) you.

Remember that I told you, A servant is not greater than his master [is not superior to him]. If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word and obeyed My teachings, they will also keep and obey yours.

But they will do all this to you [inflict all this suffering on you] because of [your bearing] My name and on My account, for they do not know or understand the One Who sent Me.

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin [would be blameless]; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

Whoever hates Me also hates My Father.


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When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.

All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;
And He will cause the sheep to stand at His right hand, but the goats at His left.

Then the King will say to those at His right hand, Come, you blessed of My Father [you favored of God and appointed to eternal salvation], inherit (receive as your own) the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you brought Me together with yourselves and welcomed and entertained and lodged Me,
I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me with help and ministering care, I was in prison and you came to see Me.

Then the just and upright will answer Him, Lord, when did we see You hungry and gave You food, or thirsty and gave You something to drink?

And when did we see You a stranger and welcomed and entertained You, or naked and clothed You?

And when did we see You sick or in prison and came to visit You?

And the King will reply to them, Truly I tell you, in so far as you did it for one of the least [in the estimation of men] of these My brethren, you did it for Me.

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As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

For just as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, [men] marrying and [women] being given in marriage, until the [very] day when Noah went into the ark,
And they did not know or understand until the flood came and swept them all away--so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

At that time two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.

Two women will be grinding at the hand mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

Watch therefore [give strict attention, be cautious and active], for you do not know in what kind of a day [whether a near or remote one] your Lord is coming.

But understand this: had the householder known in what [part of the night, whether in a night or a morning] watch the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have allowed his house to be undermined and broken into.

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David, this is what I was talking about before.
With the psychology
If you recieve this post.
I pray God bless you and you are resurrected a Shalom Man.

Hi,

Is it not against CC's AUP to try hard to convert people to thier ways/religious beliefs, etc?

If so, I suggest you talk to BINGO!

BINGO, I'm posting this for your own good. I would not want to see you go against the religion AUP.

Take Care!

Peace! & God Bless

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