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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:02 am    Post subject:
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Just converted to JD_Alpha from previous 10-24-03 cfg. Very nice.

I've got a few questions.

I still use this old custom css filter I picked up a long time ago -- I like the way it enhances several sites I frequently visit

Code:
Name = "CSS Insert custom stylesheet"
Active = TRUE
URL = "^*.(cs|j|vb)s(^?)"
Limit = 256
Match = "<start>"
Replace = "<!--//--><style type="text/css"> \r\n"
          "a {text-decoration:none; font-weight: bold;}  \r\n"
          "a:hover {text-decoration:underline}  \r\n"
          "<!--//--></style> \r\n"[/img]


Problem is that as constructed it prevents me from loading XML pages. I was hoping it could be altered to fix that?

Secondly, "CSS Insert custom stylesheet" used to work at http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/ , but when enabled in the Alpha cfgs (both basic & advanced) the visual effects are not produced, although the log shows it matching. I disabled every matching filter trying to find what is overruling it with no success. Still works fine out of the old cfg.

My other issue is with Proxomitron Menu {3.d.in}. The only place I can get commands like debug, bypass, or view source to operate is computercops.

Elsewhere I see results like this

Code:
http://www.google.com/undefinedCmd.dbug..undefinedundefined


which naturally brings me to "The requested URL /undefinedCmd.dbug..undefinedundefined was not found on this server."

I imported the old Prox menu from 10-24-03 into Alpha & it works fine.

tia

Nolan Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject:
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gibran,

The next time you run across the a multi URL search. Can you grab the URL code for me. I find it very hard to get them. Smile I'll keep looking tho. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:46 am    Post subject:
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nolan_vode,

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I still use this old custom css filter I picked up a long time ago -- I like the way it enhances several sites I frequently visit


Add..

Code:
a {text-decoration:none; font-weight: bold;}
a:hover {text-decoration:underline}


to..

Code:
PrxStyles.css



PrxStyles.css is inserted in every page.

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Secondly, "CSS Insert custom stylesheet" used to work at http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/ , but when enabled in the Alpha cfgs (both basic & advanced) the visual effects are not produced, although the log shows it matching. I disabled every matching filter trying to find what is overruling it with no success. Still works fine out of the old cfg.


If you could email me the CSS file you for Zap2it, I'll check it out. Smile (My email is on my homepage)

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My other issue is with Proxomitron Menu {3.d.in}. The only place I can get commands like debug, bypass, or view source to operate is computercops.


Hmm.. That's odd. What browser? Disabled any filters marked with {R}?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject:
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Ok, I just took the leap finally to update to the new alpha set and merge in my 5 or 6 custom filters (which I think 2 might be unnecessary, however I never got any JD filter to work for me to spoof UID strings, and the one I have works so...) and it all seems to work well.


Good to see ya finally made the jump. Smile The spoofing filters work here pretty well. I usally just use an Opera button to toggle betweeen IE and Opera UA's tho. The Prox filters remove the (Opera ID), for true UA spoofing. Smile

To fake the UA on a specific site use..

Code:
$SET(keyword=.iesite.)
$SET(keyword=.mozsite.)


Look in include-exclude.txt for examples. Smile

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I personally like at first blush the google filter except for one thing, the google toolbar ad is back at the bottom of the page(I actually forget how I got rid of that long ago ). I understand that it is supposed to be able to toggle to standard google... how do I do this?


I don't recall what filter was used to block it before. lol I'll look tho. Smile Look at the JD_Basic and JD_Extra configs to get an idea of how to change back to the default google look. Smile

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Also I think I need some documentation... what are all the script F's, blue spades, red squares and other weird (but small) icons all over most pages now? Can I get rid of them?


Those are the kill displays. (I got tired of looking at [filter.X].. lol) Hover over them, to see what filter matched. Look here to see how to disable them.

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I personally love the new click to play flash buttons, quick bypass etc... it's awesome. Only one suggestion, keep the save flash button once the flash is playing, like before.


Good point, I'll try it out. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject:
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JD5000 wrote:
To fake the UA on a specific site use..

Code:
$SET(keyword=.iesite.)
$SET(keyword=.mozsite.)


Look in include-exclude.txt for examples. Smile


Hmmm, not sure I like that quite as much as a simple blockfile list, but I do see how it can simplify the files... The thing about separate lists is that they can be left the same from update to update...

Also... if it's .iesite. then what is .dumbsites.? I understand the examples and syntax, but what do the various options mean (and I'm in the user-include-exclude).

I'm going out on a limb here, but I really think having separate lists is simpler for the user trying to add sites... this :

URL followed by $SET(.iesite.) is pretty confusing for me to explain to people, as opposed to just go to add to this menu item and type in the URL.

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I don't recall what filter was used to block it before. lol I'll look tho. Smile Look at the JD_Basic and JD_Extra configs to get an idea of how to change back to the default google look. Smile


I did figure out the default google look. I'm not sure yet which one I like better yet. I think there is more flash(as in look at what you can do with this program) than substance to that, specifically if you use Opera. How exactly do the previews help you??? Middle - Click the links! LOL

Have you thought about doing something similar for Yahoo? Some friends of mine prefer yahoo, though due to the google filter he might just decide to use google instead (that and getting him to try Opera).

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Those are the kill displays. (I got tired of looking at [filter.X].. lol)

[/quote]
Thanks for answering, I did find that out too. I need to do some more research before posting. On a related note, I do like the proxomitron menu, but sometimes there is an image in the upper left hand corner and I can't get the menu icon to pop-up.

I have never gotten the toolbar to work - or I don't understand when/where it's supposed to work.

OT: Are you excited about Opera 7.6 xmlHTTPrequest or whatever that GMAIL thing is? I'm guessing real interesting things can be done with that capability now that all 3 browsers will support it.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject:
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gibran,

The Multi-URL filter shouldn't match before the insert advanced links filter. The advanced links filter has a bounds of "<dt*</dt>" while the multi-url filter has a bounds of "<a\s*>".

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Hmmm, not sure I like that quite as much as a simple blockfile list, but I do see how it can simplify the files... The thing about separate lists is that they can be left the same from update to update...


That's what the user-include-exclude list is for. None of the files in the User folder need to be overwritten when upgrading.

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Also... if it's .iesite. then what is .dumbsites.? I understand the examples and syntax, but what do the various options mean (and I'm in the user-include-exclude).


Dumbsites is left over code. You'll have to look at the filters to see what keywords they use. That's why I still consider this an alpha config. I haven't done any work on documentation. Wink If you look at the kill displays. The keyword needed is in the URL.

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I'm going out on a limb here, but I really think having separate lists is simpler for the user trying to add sites... this :

URL followed by $SET(.iesite.) is pretty confusing for me to explain to people, as opposed to just go to add to this menu item and type in the URL.


No doubt it is easier. However, the old way is no where near as flexible. Smile

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I did figure out the default google look. I'm not sure yet which one I like better yet. I think there is more flash(as in look at what you can do with this program) than substance to that, specifically if you use Opera. How exactly do the previews help you??? Middle - Click the links! LOL

Have you thought about doing something similar for Yahoo? Some friends of mine prefer yahoo, though due to the google filter he might just decide to use google instead (that and getting him to try Opera).


I find them useful. Wink

How I find them useful.

Thumbnails: Useful for quickly seeing how well a site is made. Usually if a site is poorly made. The content is not useful. Especially useful when looking for html/JS/CSS help. Also, the image takes you to the top level of the site.

Previews: I find this most useful when using a google site search. Also, I don't always like opening a lot of windows. Smile

No plans for yahoo, never use it. Wink

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I do like the proxomitron menu, but sometimes there is an image in the upper left hand corner and I can't get the menu icon to pop-up.


Links?

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OT: Are you excited about Opera 7.6 xmlHTTPrequest or whatever that GMAIL thing is? I'm guessing real interesting things can be done with that capability now that all 3 browsers will support it.


Yea, I haven't looked into it much. But it does open some new options. I need to find some more examples. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:26 am    Post subject:
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JD5000 wrote:
Add..

Code:
a {text-decoration:none; font-weight: bold;}
a:hover {text-decoration:underline}

to..
Code:
PrxStyles.css


Xlnt. That both resolves the xml problem & eliminates the need for the custom css filter.

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PrxStyles.css is inserted in every page


There still remains a slight difference between the way ZAP is displayed using the old cfg and Alpha. With the 10-24-03 cfg the channel numbers & station call letters on the left are bold, which I prefer. How can I adjust the Alpha PrxStyles.css for this?

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That's odd. What browser? Disabled any filters marked with {R}?
Win98se, IE 5.5sp2. Tested in Alpha basic & advanced with nothing added or disabled.

Perhaps it has somethong to do with the debug.HTM I use in "C:\WINDOWS\WEB", accessed from my IE shell menu, which I use because it allows the page to be displayed in another window?

Code:
<html>
<body>
<script language="JavaScript" defer>
<!--
open("http://xdbug.." + external.menuArguments.location.href.substring(7));

// -->
</script>
</body>
</html>


But like I said, it works fine with the 10-24-03 Prox menu.

thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject:
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gibran,

The Multi-URL filter shouldn't match before the insert advanced links filter. The advanced links filter has a bounds of "<dt*</dt>" while the multi-url filter has a bounds of "<a\s*>".

~JD


Hallo JD,
thanks for your filterset Very Happy !

I'm not skilled in english Embarassed
I meant that the modified filter was triggered also on tangled urls which had to be corrected thereafter by the untangler filter.

I edited that post ( Arrow CastleCops Link/p341367-Alpha_Version_Update_10_14_04.html#341367 ) to point at the post of yours I quoted and removed the word "This way" at the beginning of that sentence.

These filter proved very difficult to understand for me (Backslash+Digit and nested parentesis scope are very difficult to understand) and the better I could do was that * which has minor side-effects.

If you think it is a nice idea too,
can you make google and other english filters easy to translate inserting some variables at the beginning of the filters containing localizable strings?

This way filters can be easily localizable using cut and paste.

eg:
Code:

$SET(lng.NewWindow=New Window)
$SET(lng.Preview=Preview)
$SET(lng.Close=Close)


Another way could be a javascript file to use as string locale triggered after body onload .

A localizable filterset would be wonderful!

Gibran

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject:
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gibran,

I think I know what you mean. However, getting multi url search results is quite difficult for me.. If you could email me a result page. I can try to debug. Smile

I have thought about a localizable filter set. Very Happy I will look into it. Very Happy I like your idea about using JS variables and Prox variables. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject:
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JD,

Found that

Increase: Small Text Sizes - FONT {2}

from 10-23-04 cfg is responsible the acheiving the effects I'm looking for at ZAP.

Can I adapt this to Alpha?

Also, tested "User Text Size: Medium" at http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/ with odd result. Increase in font size only occurs in random sections

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Had a problem viewing asp page.

this one
http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/top_right109.asp?Bno=&Typ1_c=109

clicking the link beside the box art gives me a Proxo error page.

//Edit
cause filters are the "Tracking links to Normal links" pair

========

About the javascript:something(); links

They work now but not on first load.
I have to refresh the page at least once for it to work.

Went on for hours trying to solve this but failed.
Confirmed that the cause is a web filter as the pages are tested with header filters only and web filters only.

========

The Google site tools pngs have grey background instead of being transparent. I'm using MyIE2.

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Will turning off filters slow down loading speed?
Does filters have dependecies(link to above)?


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iron2000 wrote:
Had a problem viewing asp page.

this one
http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/top_right109.asp?Bno=&Typ1_c=109

clicking the link beside the box art gives me a Proxo error page.

//Edit
cause filters are the "Tracking links to Normal links" pair

If you hold your mouse over the link for a second or so it will pop up a new Tracking Link box which you then click to give you the unfiltered link. It's there so any broken disabled tracking links can still be used normally as if they were unfiltered.

You can also add the following line to User - Include Exclude.txt to permanently bypass tracking links on that site:

Code:
www.1999.co.jp         $SET(keyword=.redirect.)

iron2000 wrote:
The Google site tools pngs have grey background instead of being transparent. I'm using MyIE2.

That's because MyIE2 is using IE's rendering which can't do transparent PNGs. Not much you can do about that except move to a standards compliant browser.... may I suggest trying Firefox? Smile

Hope this helps.


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Thanks for the reply Grypen.

Is there any solution to the javascript:something(); link problem? This is the most frustrating one at the moment.

Thanks

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Can you show me an example?


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