In the beginning The Word was with God.
Was The Word always with God or was The Word Created by God in Eternity.

Scripture tells us

Jesus - is The Son Of God - God in the flesh.
Jesus - is The Word Of God - The Word being God's Spirit, God Created all there is through The Word. (And The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters) GEN 1:2
Jesus - Is The Son, The Word and the Holy Spirit. All come from God.

In the beginning the Word was with God and The Word was God, that is the beginning of time - the beginning of Creation because there is no beginning in Eternity.

So was The Word God's first Creation in Eternity, an exact likeness, or have God and the Word always been God.

I dont think the Bible deals with this, or maybe it does.

edit 54.

I dont know where you get that reply from but it is not from John chapter 5 or anywhere else in the Bible.
Sounds a bit like new age teaching.

edit 55.

I dont think there is an answer, will know in time, or Eternity.

Our Father has asked nothing of us, he wouldn't do Himself...

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

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"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
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Here's something interesting:

Here's something interesting:

I did a google search for "Jesus logos" (not "logos" as in graphic images, but the greek word "logos") and came across this site: Come2Jesus. I thought it was excellent, but I have only looked at two pages so far. The page on the "Gospel" is great, as it takes the "good news" approach the we have spoken about in another topic.

I'd be interested in what others have to say about the site.

Cheers,
enegue

PS: Zippy, it will please you to know that the site was put together by an ex-catholic and his wife, an ex-methodist, who have become SDAs

you guys need to stop reading the KJV and start reading the RSV..thats supposed to be the most accurate translation of them all.

especially you Yesicanread.. taking every single word of the bible seriously is bad enough..taking every single word of a badly translated bible seriously is stupidity.

If you want to go all metaphysical on us at least do it from a source that has some credibility..Yesicanread have you ever considered learning aramaic?

Lo king_mark,

The version is really not that significant. They all tell us that Jesus is the Christ, and that he came to set us free.

yes eneque..i know that as well as you do..what my point is if you are going to view the bible as the be all and end all of everything, lets do it with an accurate translation al the very least

and also if you are going to pull up comparasions..pull up something that shows the difference rather than somenthing that shows the similarity

Lo king_mark,

Can you outline some of the inaccurate areas of translation that are causing concern. It might be worthwhile discussing them in terms of their importance to christian doctrine.

I'm not trying to be clever. It's just that I don't know of any mistranslations that are significant in terms of the important concepts. All the versions of the bible that I am familiar with, say the same stuff. I repeat, I honestly don't know of any concepts that one bible is teaching that other bibles don't.

Cheers,
enegue

I stand corrected. I did some research on the matter and find that the LB is the only version of the bible that does not condemn homosexuals to death. This encourages me to put even less stock in the words of any bible than I did before. This means that I essentially think of all bibles as pretty paperweights or restroom reading material. Condemning consenting adults to death for what they do in their bedrooms is gestapo malarkey. This is especially annoying since the bible makes no suggestion in regard to what the punishment for pedophilia should be. Pedophiles are more deserving of death than homosexuals in my opinion.

Hi ice,

The laws were given to Israel to build a strong and healthy nation, to make them stand out amongst all the others of that time. As we have discussed in other topics, homosexuality and infidelity are things that war against the ideal family model, which provides the framework for the fundamental building block of a healthy nation. It may appear noble to stand up for the right of individuals to choose their sexual preference, but it will never be in the best interest of a healthy nation to lend approval to such behaviour.

The good news though is, the requirements of the Mosaic law have been met, and there is no longer any need to fear a death penalty.