Well, I don't think Gwen is All that cool... heehee...sorry hon, couldn't resist...I like Jim Carrey myself...
Who is cool though, is definitely a matter of opinion... My brother and sisters think I'm cool...my kids think I'm goofy...
Is it possible to be intelligent, and humble? Yes. These are the "cool" ones. I' imagine the "guests" at Levi's dinner party, thought Jesus was pretty cool...
I think you are pretty cool...and highly intellegent... I also see you runnin' down the interstate, exceeding the speed limit, with the fire trucks in hot pursuit...and I admire that...actually, you tickle the H-E-double hockey stick outa me!

You wanna go?

False humility=disguised arrogance? I don't like it...nor do I respect it. But...I can still love em, for they "know not what they are doing"...It's a big fat scary world out there, and yes, people are insecure; and yes, they want to feel better about themselves; but many just want to feel comfortable...and safe...so...many are walking and talking in their sleep. Just pat them on the back and tell them to roll over...because they're snoring again.
Oooo...Or as Jesus would say......"Sleep On"...(Matthew 26:45)
Or..."what is that to you?" (John 21:22)

We've gotta give people a break...(tho not on this forum...challenge away...and thanks for not flyin' away ) We have grizzly bears here in montana....and they hybernate....I could go into the den, and prod them with a big long stick, trying to wake them up...but I won't cause...I'm chicken
Doggone it....see just when I THINK I have the time to sit down and chat with you all, the doors fly open, and I have a houseful of noisy, needy boys...sheesh....to be continued...grrrrrrrrr....I scream too!
aaargh...I'm hearin' you, and I'll be baack!

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cg
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
-Mahatma Gandhi

show me a humble man

and I'll show you a man full of pride...


You are seeing what you're looking for. ...and we all do, I suppose. It is a difficult thing to avoid. It takes a definitive, self-critical humility and self-training. Not the cliche humility of a man in ashes who never steps up to the bat. But the humility that stems from the angst that "I do not know what life is..."

If your answer for me concerning humiliity is for me to shut up and bypass my intellect for the sake of a mythical faith, then I see that I am in the wrong place. Gentlepersons in a traditional and formal forum must expect all manner of beliefs and customs to come their way. The unwritten rules of discourse suggest that too much will not be presumed about an individual, recognizing the differing cultural backgrounds.

The art of conversation necessitates one giving the other the benefit of the doubt. A sincere yearning to understand the other's point of view. To consider a context that would give what my neighbor has to say credibility.... I grant you the lenience that your thoughts and interests that your heart publicizes are humble, even though your words are strong. And moreover, not being able to see you face to facce and not having been privy to your personal life, I presume, out of a social grace, that you are of an excellent spirit.

My contribution to the excellency of our discourse, therefore gives you the benefit of the doubt. Therefore, when you make a statement that in MY eyes appears prideful, I deny myself the opportunity of baseness by judging that statement according to my reality, and I think to myself,

"How can this statement be meant in a humble fashion? Is it possible that I do not know this personaility? Is it possible that this person has made this statement out of character and integrity, regardless of how I may be perceiving?"

And of course, this is the crux of kindness, to really, really try to put oneself in another's shoes. Very easy to hear this, but far from easy to understand. it's a.... What is it you humans ilke to say? A Cafoffle! a conundrum.. A difficult practice indeed!

I am not prideful, I tell you... You just don't know me, that's all. My fruits are born in my actions, Not that I give much credit to the act of bearing fruit... For me, it revolves around things that I just cannot help doing... It comes natural for me to "bear fruit" in my actions.... I am not under any burden that is not natural to "bear fruit..." as it were. Bearing fruit is a natural by-product of my heart's desires.... Some of those desires extend to my neighbor, who I desire to be upright and noble... So they are, until they show me otherwise. Even then... I usually give them the benefit of the doubt...

My reference to "Cool" was a preemptive strike against this tough crowd.
A prediction of any responses that may arise. I was effectively, counting my chickens before they were hatched. So to speak.

So, with the sincerest form of love that just seems to come naturally from my bowels of mercy, and from that which I have had to exercise more perfectly,


I love you!

[quote="enegue"]Lo king_mark,

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Hi and welcome habiru,

Hi,

My sister's thirteen year old son get's a kick out of reading this forum. Hey Zach! He tells me that he has a lot of trouble with wht I say also. Both the content and the spirit.

But

and this is a very big but.

He has this dictionary...

and more importantly, he is intellectually curious. When he comes across something he doesn't undrestand, he gets excited and is glad for the opportunity to learn something new. He reminds me of his uncle....

He often calls me after some of my posts and laughs and tells me the new words he looked up. He actually keeps a notebook of newly learned words! What a player!

Now, there are the content... there are actually those curious creatures who are content with themselves and where they are...

I believe that it was Thoreau who said, "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things."

Thoreau was a man of "simple and high thinking" and his writings proved to have more of an impact on the men of the 20th century than the men of his own century, the 19th, for instance Gandhi, you will be interested to know, ChickenGirl, became convinced by reading Thoreau of the rightness of the principle of passive resistance and civil disobedience.

But back to these creatures who accept this life of quiet desperation.. They resign themselves to 'not wanting to know' and in not knowing, they sleep. they sleep until they die, and during thier content and predictable and wasted life, they convince themselves of one or another religion, and of course they must do this - for not to do it would be unbearable to a lost soul. TO not do this would mean having to face nothing.

My nephew is a seeker. I am a seeker... I know NO more than he does. But together, we are kings. We do not stop too long at any one crossroad, for we know how easy it is to get comfortable and stop questioning. AND the questions do matter... When one stops the questions, one is blind.

That's the difference between a good man and a great man, a good man doesn't have to know... If he comes across information that he does not understand, he sees it as 'work' to uncover the treasures therein..... A great man has to know. and cannot wait to make a new discovery.

A woman ran up to Tiger Woods with her son in tow and pointed to her son as she made the comment to Tiger:
"My son won't put in the necessary hours to become a great golfer... I told him that it took practice, practice and more practice! I make him go out everyday and play, so he can be great.... Tell him, Mr. Woods... Tell him how much practice it takes!..."

the mother's jaw dropped when Tiger responded:
"Nobody ever had to tell me to practice."

"Our wretched species is so made, that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road..." - Voltaire

Dude, like that was totally right on...

I couldn't have said it better!

You're sick, dude... Sick! Boo ya!

Sa da tay,
keep it real, bro...


























































































keep it real

abcd

Yo, big Daddy,

No, Dude,

you ain't feelin' me, Aight?

i'm straight up... legit n' s...nevamine

I have no idea what's come over me.

What I'm trying to say is that I was sincere in my kudos.

I wasn't being sarcastic! Geesh!

Capiche?
You're doing a good job! I'm serious.

Yours