You're wrong, habiru. You'll never be free of me. Never. You'll have to listen to me debunk your discredited religion for as long as I wish it and for as long as you'll be here and like I told you before, there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to it. So who is in a position of power, huh?, "friend"?. Isn't that how you sell your unsolicited wares when you proselytize without remorse? We'll, don't worry, I'll give you more than all the "friendship" and "fellowship" you can handle. The pleasure is all mine. It will always be mine. And you have no idea how great my pleasure is.

BTW, I'm not the one believing in absurd mythology, from 2000 yrs old cave dwellers and donkey riders. You choose to.


PS And don't put words into my mouth. I told you I don't do those things. Don't bring it up, ever again. My point was in response to ZZ, claiming no one can know who he really is. I can find that out if I put some money on it, but it is again not proper, so I won't respond to your tempting me. Please stop turning my words around. You know nothing of great impact about security. Just because you learn something and you have some job in the field, means nothing. The lowest link is always the human factor. Nothing is totally secure. Nothing. If you understood that, then you would have my job.

double post, sorry.

You're wrong, habiru. You'll never be free of me. Never. You'll have to listen to me debunk your discredited religion for as long as I wish it and for as long as you'll be here and like I told you before, there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to it. So who is in a position of power, huh?, "friend"?. Isn't that how you sell your unsolicited wares when you proselytize without remorse? We'll, don't worry, I'll give you more than all the "friendship" and "fellowship" you can handle. The pleasure is all mine. It will always be mine. And you have no idea how great my pleasure is.

BTW, I'm not the one believing in absurd mythology, from 2000 yrs old cave dwellers and donkey riders. You choose to.


PS And don't put words into my mouth. I told you I don't do those things. Don't bring it up, ever again. My point was in response to ZZ, claiming no one can know who he really is. I can find that out if I put some money on it, but it is again not proper, so I won't respond to your tempting me. Please stop turning my words around. You know nothing of great impact about security. Just because you learn something and you have some job in the field, means nothing. The lowest link is always the human factor. Nothing is totally secure. Nothing. If you understood that, then you would have my job.[/quote]


Your only hope is that maybe, one day, I mind find another pet project, or I might get bored with having your beliefs under my microscope and find other ways to amuse myself instead of disassembling religion and debunking your God and its mythology.

No, your style of writing and posting is disgusting. Your make a very bad Christian, because there is no real love in you. Christianity is nothing but a facade, which gives you your infatuated sense of misplaced pride and a pulpit to hate the ones who don't believe your bogus tribal "God". There is nothing meek about you, and I don't know what cheek you are turning, but it ain't the right one. Your attitude has nothing to do with what you claim to believe in, which of course is no surprise to me. And since when is Kokoro the standard for righteousness? Don't you know what your own book says about your righteousness? Filthy rags or something? If Kokoro wants to jump on the delusion bandwagon, that's her business, not mine. Believing in things that are not there constitutes delusional thinking. You people claim your tribal "God" is actively involved in your lives and in your "personal relationship" with "Him". I have shown you to be liars about it. I asked you to describe these things specifically, and none of you could. So stop pushing your wares. Where are the demons, where are your fake miracles, your fake prayers getting answered, you fake "Holy Spirit", your fake "God"?

You do not have even one iota of evidence that all this balderdash gargage you are pushing is really out there, like you claim. Your only argument left is that science hasn't covered every nook and cranny and your "mighty" "God" must therefore be hiding there.


Well, if that's so, then I hope your "God" is skinny enough, cause in those little nooks and crannies he's being squeezed by and sharing the space with the likes of Allah, Santa Claus, the resurrected Elvis, Zeus, the Tooth Fairy, the Abominable Snowman, martians, Klingons and the list goes on beyond all the silly things I care to mention here. Get used to the fact that your "God" is thoroughly impotent, not present, and knowing nothing. These are His puny little attributes, and you won't be free until you accept my words as fact. MY words will haunt you forever, and there's nothing you can do about it. I am everywhere and anywhere I want to be, if it pleases me. I am free. You are not. Think about it.

I care nothing for your views, and I care nothing for your religion. I am here only to play Pac-man with ideas on religion. The only thing I really care about is to enjoy people I care about and respect, and to spot errors in logic and step on them. Nothing else. So don't give yourself so much credit. You are making me laugh. When you start introducing yourself with a pornographic misspelling of my name, -no, I don't really believe your excuse-, then don't expect me to like you. I don't.

PS Logically speaking, just because there is "undiscovered" stuff out there, that does not give you the right to fraudulently insert your "God" in the "unknown territory" intellectual gaping hole in your imagination, because "HE" must wait in line for "His" turn. There are many more imaginary characters from magical books waiting their turn in line, and you Christians have done nothing but force your religion by force upon humanity, in an atrocious and shameless propaganda and brainwashing and vile murderous campain throughout history. Your religion was imposed by force, by attrocities, murder, torture and genocide. Your religion has no right to be here, and attempt to exert this much influence in the affairs of humanity. But the end of this great farce is near. I only hope, for your sake, that you psyche can endure and survive the jolt produced by the realization that your godman "Hero" is nothing but a patsy.


PS Oh, and let me clarify that this has nothing to do with my alleged "attitude". I met you people here very politely and curteously, but then you started saying mean things about me first, because you could not take the fact that you were exposed as having no evidence whatsoever for your fantasy claims. The ball was in your court. All I did was ask for your evidence, as any normal and sane person would do, and then you people turned vicious, and it only escalates from there. The point is, do you have anything to support your claims, or not? I have demonstrated that you don't, so then I have the right to refer to the claims in question as lies. You have brought this upon yourselves. You should not make such claims, without proof. Why don't you call your emergency number 911(in your country) and tell the police you know that this or that person has a demon inside of them, or that you just "talked" to Jesus or "His" "Daddy" or something. You know what they would do? If you're lucky enough not to get charged for misuse of their time, they will take you to the closest mental facility for evaluation, and if necessary, hold you there indefinitely, until your delusions subside. Do you remember VastlyRight ranting on and on about Lucifer and all this demon garbage? That is sheer lunacy, to say these things exist. And I have a right to hold you accountable. I fear for the children you people raise as yet another army of religious drones believing in all this crap. because the fundamentalist children grow up to take all this garbage as real. The state should really not allow fundamentalists to raise children, if they are proven to hold such views. We all saw the Jesus Camp movie.

If you have no proof, it should be illegal for fundamentalists to proselytize. You are misrepresenting, and that is fraud. Nobody else does it with such fanaticism, except for Islam. You are both, just as dangerous. We should not allow two rogue religions to hijack and destroy our world and hard earned civilization.

Kokoro, it was meant only within the religious context of the Bible. No offense towards you, personally. I am sure you are a fine person. I have no quarrels with you at all.

Don't you think parents ought to tell kids that they only "believe" that "God" is real, though, and not tell that to them as a fact? Please indulge me on this one. Don't these children, who can be so easily manipulated, have the right to make that choice for themselves, when they are old enough to think for themselves?

Hi Agnos

Sorry again for the late reply, but I don't get here much as I volunteer
computer work for other organizations.

Agnos Posted:

Yes I do love them. I didn't know 137 that well, but Qwertie & I had
our ups & downs

BUT that doesn't mean I don't love them less. Even rroper would
agree regarding 137, as she knows I love everyone equally.

Their "Ways" or choice of words, etc. or what they've done in the past
so on & so forth could stem from mental illness or they're just plain bad/evil.

It's difficult to know why 137 & Q are the way they are???

Whos knows? I still hope there is "hope" for them yet, but like I said in
another post:

A person has to want to help themselves before anyone else can begin
to help them!

Take Care, God Bless & Have A Great Day

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Quote:

"A Weak Mind Can Be Easily Controlled!" "Ni Bastori Carborundum" ©1963 SQIV

Hi Agnos

Where did I ever post that I believe in the Bible? It's a 2000 year
old book written by men & it's a bit much for me!!!

Many people don't understand my "Christianity". I am just a loving,
compassionate, man and NO I'm not into ANY organized religion nor
Fundamentalism. I don't believe in "faith healings". To me it's just a
big scam to make money (like Jim & Tammy Baker...They became
BILLIONAIRES) Jerry Falwell, etc.


You Posted:

We send each other private messages.

P.S. (You can call me David if you like as that's my real name.)

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Quote:

"A Weak Mind Can Be Easily Controlled!" "Ni Bastori Carborundum" ©1963 SQIV

I also wanted to point out that I don't really believe in God as a diety.

I believe "God" & "Satan" is within us all as we have the choice to do good
or evil or both, but a good person will usually appologize and go back to
doing good deeds.

When I say "God Bless" I am really saying that "I" bless you because like I
said both good & evil are within us. It's just what we choose to be.

Also there are people in life who can make us evil or try to by being rude,
picking fights, yada, yada, but I just walk away. I couldn't be bothered
with rude, obnoxious people.

I just don't have anything to do with those kind of people. Nobody really
bothers me here, except for people who have used & abused me & still
consider me a "BEST FRIEND"...YEAH RIGHT!!!

Like I mentioned in another post, I put my foot down & stopped giving of
myself like I used to. Some people still ask me for money, buy them
a drink or two or three, give them cigarettes, money, etc, but I just say NO

"I Am That I Am" "I Am What I Am" "I Am Who I Am"

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David (esacnitsuj)
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Hi, esacnitsuj, thank you for sharing these things, I did not realize these things about you.

Pardon me for asking you, though, but why do you then consider yourself a Christian? You say you do not believe it, so therefore why bother with the nomenclature? I used to do that for a long time myself, but eventually I outgrew the habit...

Nevertheless, I commend you for not taking these things to be real. Like I said before, in all fairness, there are many positive aspects in moderate non- fundamentalist Christianity, -as in other religions-, which actually amounts more to idealized spirituality though, and is further idealized by congregating around certain religious personifications, such as Christ. I have absolutely nothing against such professions of "faith", as long as they remain in the realm of personal beliefs only. When religions overstep that boundary, they become fundamentalist and extremist, and represent a clear and present danger to society, as history has proven it to be the case. Personally, I believe the evidence is clear as to the concept of Christ having existed way before Jesus even existed, but I know many would not agree with that. And that's OK with me.

Anyway, nice talking.

Hi Agnos

Thanks much for the nice reply. It is not my intention to name call, fight,
etc. in these threads.

Great post BTW

Take Care & God Bless

"I Am That I Am" "I Am What I Am" "I Am Who I Am"

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Warm Regards,
David (esacnitsuj)
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