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Author: parputt PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Take time to teach!!!

I was at my sisters yesterday for a birthday party. She had been telling me how slow her computer was running with blue screens galore. I had told her that since the computer was going on 5 years old I would probably just format and start fresh.

I figured I would mess around with it yesterday and see what I could do to tide her over until I have a weekend to spare to do the format and reinstall.

I started off my updating and running AVG. Now, she has AVG installed, but thought the boot scan was all it did and never bothered to update or run a full system scan. After the AVG update (30 min. due to 56k) I started a full system scan. I noticed the scan was taking really long and seemed to be spending a lot of time on .temp files. So, I pause the scan and go digging around. Here is what I found:

Temp. Internet Files--Over 3000
Temp. Files--Over 2000

Get that cleared up and re-run AVG. Total of 13 bad guys. Get that all fixed up and install AdAware. 159 hits from AdAware!!!!!!!!!!

I was running short on time (wife was nagging me go leave) so I started a defrag. and told her to check it in the morning (it might be half way finished at that point Smile )

Moral of the story: Take the time to teach your family and friends some basic computer cleaning and upkeep skills. You will be able to enjoy the cake and ice cream at the next birthday party you attend:) Smile


Last edited by parputt on Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:24 am, edited 2 times in total

Author: lilliebet PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject:

I have a family just like yours. Happily surfing the net without even the sniff of a firewall. When the internet started running slowly my niece deleted all kinds of files to help speed things up INCLUDING NORTON. Needless to say they had 4 trojans, more than 300 items of spyware (and I've still not cleared them all). On one profile alone there were 4500+ temp internet files and all four of them have their own profile. Now I'm no expert but it just goes to show how little your average bod knows about security and the general upkeep of their magic box. Laughing

Author: !Mariner PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:20 am    Post subject:

Appreciate that, parputt, maybe you should pin this and lilliebet's post in the New User forum. Would prove informative. If you can't pin it there, send 'em down here to look at it.

Author: pawanLocation: India,bangalore PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject:

very informative this is..... i had a similar problem....... frnd of mine helped me out... now ill learn to do it my self.......

Author: beynac PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject:

I sorted out my sister-in-law's computer for her and Ad-Aware found over 2300 items! Shocked Is this a record? She now runs AVG and Ad-Aware weekly and keeps them updated (I hope!).

Author: Mister2 PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Hi beynac,

Welcome to CastleCops Very Happy

If it is a record, I would not like to hold it! Laughing

I find the best thing is seeing their expression the first time I run CCleaner on someone else's system - all the cookies, temporary internet files and so on. That is the time they realise they don't need 30 days history Wink

Author: Hugh PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Take time to teach!!!

parputt wrote:
Temp. Internet Files--Over 3000
Temp. Files--Over 2000


Hi Parputt,

Here is what I do (or not do) to keep my computer up and running:

Don't install anything with the name Norton on it (especially on older computers). AVG is good enough (but make sure it's configured properly).

Install Crap Cleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/). It's free. It's not even 1,5 MB and cleanes everything that doesn't belong on your computer regarding to Windows, IE etc.) Make it a task that runs every day if you wish. (You will be able to save certain cookies (i.e. for this forum)).

Put the defrag tool in your tasks as well.

IE: don't allow more than let's say 10 MB of TIF's and let IE remove them every time you close it down.

Spyware: do a free online scan (http://www.trendmicro.com/spyware-scan/) every now and then. It only needs an ActiveX control. Remove most of your cookies before you do it.

My computer is 7 years old (P3 500) and still runs very fast.


Hugh

Author: ArenlorLocation: USA PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject:

My favorite thing to do is to take them into the temporary internet file folder and locate a bank site in there that has their account number on it. Then I tell them to run CCleaner and tell them that the longer it is running the more useless junk they had on their system, longest time it took was 4 hours. T_T I had a computer which I first learned computer stuff on, when I first ran anti-malware stuff each found over 2000 items, McAfee did not, it found over 20000 yes Twenty Thousand items. Needless to say it ran faster. Way faster. After a full repair and deletion of unused items it ran like new.

Author: nosirrahLocation: USA PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject:

My sister holds the record at my shop with 147 boot up processes .

Author: Hugh PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject:

nosirrah wrote:
My sister holds the record at my shop with 147 boot up processes .

Laughing How long did it take before the computer was ready to use?

Hugh

Author: nosirrahLocation: USA PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject:

I made a clone of her drive to use for antimalware testing and just formatted the drive (her request) . It took more than 7 minutes to boot her system like that . I can't believe how bad some people let their systems get before they say something . Oh yeh it also was xp with 128 mb of ram and a 5400 rmp hard drive . Craptacular . My mom and dad still uses a 98 "first edition" machine with 64 mb of ram . It has AOL and norton on it also . They don't ever shut it down (unless it crashes) because of how long it takes to boot .

Author: ErikAlbert PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject:

Hmm I would teach if people needed my help.

Unfortunately none of my family or friends seem to have any problems with malware on computers at all. Not sure why they are all so smart.

Author: woodsmokeLocation: USA PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: torpedomen, linux and windblows genuine advantage

I just lately had to clean up the detritus left by the Windoblows Genuine Advantage tattoo on a friend's computer.... Crying or Very sad

However, as to myself..... since I run linux.....and also don't go where grandma wouldn't want me to go.....

it's kind of like the fellow on my ship when I was in the Navy....he was a "torpedoman"....the torpedoes had become automated by that time....and his sole job....was....to....once per watch....to open a small cover on each torpedo...and clean the arming switch with what "
used to be called" a "pinstriping brush".... a really fluffy brush when dry....

then....he took a long nap...

I feel one coming on now... Laughing

woodsmoke

Author: woodsmokeLocation: USA PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:10 am    Post subject:

Parputt,

I hope you don't mind, but i copied your avatar's saying for use in mine at the forum Xandros for the nonce...

woodsmoke

Author: TibilicusLocation: USA PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject:

The other way round for me. When I first got my computer I told my dad not to use it as there was no AV or Firewall isntalled and seeming it's a modem not a router I connect with I knew it would mean trouble if he did. Still didn't stop him from browsing the net mind. I came back to find around 60 items of spyware and around 52 trojans. God knows what other sort of malware was on there.

Had to reformat after only having the pc for 2 hours. :s

BTW on a mroe random note any one know how I can get my old account back (Tib). Which member would I have to talk to about it? Just it was registerd on a freinds email at the time and when I formated my PC last week (non malare realted problem for a change) I lost my old account info. Sad. Also If no one beleivs me an admin can check my IP. Wink

Thanks

Tib



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