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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: The end of the line....
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Hi all

Bad news unfortunately... have just received word from Nick that we will be not continuing on with developing the Mac or Linux versions of Mailwasher Pro...

We will only support the Windows version using Parallels in Mac and Wine in Linux, details on Parallels are still sketchy, however we will work something out soon and I'll post here when we do.

Sorry it didn't work out, but unfortunately we have found that most Mac and Linux users just dont seem to be all that interested in actually purchasing the program, (and yes, there was still many bugs there) so its just not economical to continue on with, and on top of this, the developer was wanting to move on with other non firetrust projects.

Personally I did prefer a native Linux version in my Ubuntu install so will likely continue on using this myself!

For already registered users....

Mac: We are working on a partnership with Parallels so will announce this here when avaliable, (not sure on pricing yet)

Linux: You can either continue with your current version with support, or change to the windows version using Wine.

Will post more information when it becomes available.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject:
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Currently latest avaliable version, please note that these were actually released on 26th of June 2007, so are not actually new, just the most recent avaliable.

Mac Version:

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/MailWasherPro_2.0.0_070626.pkg.sit

Ubuntu 6.06:

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/mailwasher_2.0.0_ubuntu6.06.deb

Ubuntu 6.10, 7.04:

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/mailwasher_2.0.0_ubuntu6.10_7.04.deb

SuSe 10.2:

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/mailwasher-2.0.0-070626_suse10.2.rpm

PCLinuxOS 2007: (may work in Fedora 7?)

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/mailwasher-2.0.0-070626_pclinux.2007.rpm

Xandros:

http://www.firetrust.com/download/beta/mailwasher_2.0.0_xandros.deb

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: end of the line?
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What a devastating piece of news.

The best programme for dealing with email spam is going to be cut by a third. No more Mac or Linux versions, just as Dell and Hewlett Packard are pioneering giving consumers a choice by making Linux based computers available.

This Nick Bolton always seemed like such a capable and cheerful bloke, although he never said if he has a business degree.

So now, MailWasher is going to be for Microsoft Windows users only.

That means that I will no longer be able to recommend it to anyone.

Very, very, very misguided in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject:
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Yes, I agree it is bad news, however if its not selling...

Also, yes, the PC version will still work fine on Linux under Wine, and on Macs under Paralells.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject:
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gingbat wrote:
Yes, I agree it is bad news, however if its not selling...

Also, yes, the PC version will still work fine on Linux under Wine, and on Macs under Paralells.


Very sad news indeed...
I bought the Mac License (which doesn't work on Windows by the way), hoping this would yield new resources for development for the Mac version...

I can understand it "doesn't sell", as it's quite unstable compared to the windows version, so it's a bit of "the chicken and the egg"... Why expect money if you have "nothing" to sell...

I don't run parallels on my mac by the way...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject:
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The mailwasher server was released as an open source project, any chance of that happening with the Linux-Mac version?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject:
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stan_qaz wrote:
The mailwasher server was released as an open source project, any chance of that happening with the Linux-Mac version?

Sorry but not likely, have requested this several times, but unfortunatly theyre not keen, I think that the code is too similar to the PC version...

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Thanks for trying, I guess I have until Suse 10.3 comes out to find a solution.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject:
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groan

What a downer... Sad

Having moved over from PC land to the Mac this was the only piece of PC specific software I could see a use for. The 1st version was no more than OK and the 2 beta was nearer an alpha there were so many bugs. Nowhere near as good as the PC product.

I don't run any PC emulators. Can't see the point in going down the route of anti-virus, anti-spam, multi-layered firewalls and M$ Vista. That was what I came to the Mac to get away from!

So I guess it will be Hello bye bye from me .......

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject:
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Your reasoning is utterly flawed. The latest builds were alpha at best - nobody in their right mind would have paid for a product that simply doesn't work in key areas.

I'm a registered (windows) user of Mailwasher Pro and would happily have paid to switch versions if you'd actually finished the thing. You seriously think that Mac users are so different from everybody else that they just won't pay for software? Don't you think it's more likely that the Mac version just wasn't worth paying for?

Dumb decision, imho.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject:
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If you guys look way back through the posts, we were previously told that the mac and pc versions of mailwasher pro are so different that the mac version would never catch up to the pc version in terms of features and functionality nor could we transfer our black and friends lists between them. Now we are told that the mac and pc versions are too similar to enable the mac version's release as open source. Utter bullshit. The truth of the matter is that the mac version was never a priority for FireTrust. It was a minimally staffed side project that was killed when it didn't become profitable in short order despite the fact that it was not reasonable to expect profitability when the company never allocated the resouces necessary to compete and release a solid, retail product (just ask Gingbat how many staff comprise the pc MailWasher team and how many staff are/ were assigned to mac). I am a mac convert that started using MailWasher on the pc before FireTrust purchased it and am bitter about being strung along with the hollow promises of a supported mac version. I will not pass up the chance to advise people against supporting such a company in the future. It's the least I can do considering the consideration the company has shown users like myself.

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Come back from a few days holiday and still utterly stunned at the stated reasons for dropping this. I have shown a couple of friends who run the PC version, my Mac with the beta 2.0 version. The first just laughed at it - and me for even persevering with it. The second just advised me to forget it....

Why Firetrust even think that Mac users are going to pay out for a clearly inferior product is beyond my comprehension. Looking through these threads it seems to me that the beta users are mostly made up of switchers from PC's such as myself. That just makes it harder to take, as we know how good the product should be.

Having thought about it, I can see even less reason to run PC emulators on Mac's. There was a time, but that seems to be passing. With the single exception of MailWasher Pro and possibly SiteHound I cannot think of any PC software I would want running on my lovely Mac's!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject:
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Obviously for many, including us at Firetrust, there's some disapointment, but the decision has been made, and we have to work with what's given to us.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Very disappointed
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A Mailwasher version for linux was the last thing stopping me switching to linux as my main OS for the family. I very rarely pay for software, preferring open source, but there is just no alternative to mailwasher out there.

There may have been bugs, but mailwasher was working great for me under linux. I am disappointed to have forked out money for software that I believed in to find that the line has been dropped. Please re-consider your position.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject:
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Hi Daniel. Have you tried using the Windows version with Wine on Linux ?


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