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The_Dr
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject: Logviewer - Too many programs with the same name "Logvi |
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I have noticed that while trying to find Logviewer using google that too
many results come back with different programs with the same name.
This, of itself, is a serious security risk.
To the programmers out there: How about trying to uniquely name your program?
For example, "LinkSysLogViewer" instead of just "Logviewer"
As long as there is confusion about which program is which, security will remain in a state of confusion.
How I long for the days of professional programmers.
Any comments on which logviewer is which?
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stan_qaz
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Too many folks are still afraid to go much past 8.3 for filenames and that really cramps your self expression. _________________ Questions? Try the wiki
http://wiki.castlecops.com/MailWasher_Pro
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Oldfrog
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Any comments on which logviewer is which? |
That can be confusing. The Logviewer that works with Linksys routers can be downloaded from the Linksys website. Other that that I would include Linksys as a search term when looking for other references on the net.
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The_Dr
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: Logviewer search engines |
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The major search engines, including Google, once a bastion of information, have now turned into corporate ad spam.
You can't type in more than two or three words and get "Any" results anymore.
What the world needs is a search engines because they no longer exist as such.
Google goes to the same "we can't find any" page whenever there are more than three words in the search. That's because private companies have bought all the search engines.
By the way, I've given up on logviewer and switched to the program from which they were all plagiarized [and I do mean "Plagiarized" even Windows Network Monitor in the SMS package is, basically, an illegal copy of the program Ethereal].
Ethereal.
However, the developer forgot to mention that it has used Ethereal as the basis for Network Monitor, a definite copyright infringement by Microsoft, and it's not the first time Microsoft has infringed someone else's copyright.
I remember writing the first "relocatable code" segment, in machine code below assembly language, for GEOS, while GEOS itself was blatantly absconded from the BBS community by Xerox, which became Windows. The ability to locate code at any address and have it work is crucial to any true operating system.
Principally, it allows no "jump" or "goto" unconditionally, but it also finds all such machine operands and replaces them with conditional branches. That code is copyrighted, by me, although I've seen Microsoft use it in every program they write without credit or permission.
Which brings us to why programs should have different names: the orginal author of a "type" of program actually owns the rights to derived works too. The GNU license does not permit derivations without acknowledgement. However, far too many "coders" think that it is just as legal to use code without acknowledging the original author as it is to download songs and movies without paying for them.
And that is the difference between a true programmer and a coder. It places coders squarely in the realm of hackers.
All of this only to say that Gerald Combs is actually the author of all Logviewer programs.
He and numerous other programmers are listed in the "About" box of Ethereal and Google should have found Ethereal first among all of the Logviewers and Network Monitors, not out of courtesy, but by Copyright Law because using a copyrighted work without adhering to the license is a violation of Copyright Law.
So, we have two divirging roads into confusion, one along program names and the other along plagiarism.
Not a good course for professional programming. And now, a new search engine is needed to rid the world of spam search engines, advertiser oriented search engines, and one that adheres to something called "information" instead of disinformation.
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Oldfrog
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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This topic appears to be done, so I am marking it as such so that it can be closed by a moderator. _________________
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Acheton
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've locked this thread since the issue is resolved Please pm a mod if you have any questions.
thanks,
ach
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