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My math to represent the concept of God.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: My math to represent the concept of God.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject:
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Hey b11ng00...
As a math challenged non-physicist, I can't really understand some of your mathematic convolutions. I would, however, suggest that a mathematical model that illustrates the existance of God would be impossible. (Deists, those who believe in a God, or gods, would say that God is beyond math, and thereby indescribable as math.)

Certainly "action = reaction" as applicable to God, goes right out the window with the early biblical stories of God's wrath visited upon humanity for often trivial reasons.

I, myself, don't think God can be illustrated/demonstrated by mathematics (or any other bona-fide scientific method) as I don't believe such an entity exists to be percieved. In the vein of acting/reacting; if an entity exists, that entity must act (what is the purpose of existance without action?) The actions of said entity must (action = reaction) produce reaction. That reaction, in it's turn, would also cause action/ reaction. Even accepting the Deist's proposition that God is scientifically undeterminable, God's actions/reactions should be observable and measurable. They are not.
Nothing in existance can be irrefutably demonstrated to be a result of God. Instead, we get hyperbole...."look at a human being. Such a wonderous thing could only be a creation of God", while, in truth, we should be saying, "Look at God, such a wonderous thing could only have been created by man."


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject:
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you know, icanread...(but have always stunk at math Razz couldn't resist) I think you are onto something, and I can almost see the aura of it... I do know that there is someone out there that will see it right away...And you know that God is the original mathematician Wink I find that over the years, things that I study in scripture, more and more are "adding" up... 2+2=4...every time...and that's as far as my math skills go...I remember in grade school, when we began algebra, it wasn't long before i was completely lost....and never did find my way out... Sad ...maybe it was a mental block...(or deficiency) or maybe it is because I am left handed, and extremely right-brained??? Hardly a day goes by that I haven't created something... Rolling Eyes Since I have had this computer...(a year now!) I know my houseful of guys would love it if I would turn a little of my creativity back to the kitchen... Cool 'nuff 'bout me...I like the post...You will be a fantastic witness to the smarty pants in the world...yippeeee...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject:
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Very interesting diagram. I do, however, have a question. Why would anyone wish to even make the attempt to explain God using human understood mathamatics? God is not a math example in a text book, He is a living being, all powerful and EXCEEDINGLY more infinite than some math example could ever hope to explain, or even come close to beginning to explain. It is typical human understanding to want to try to put God in human terms so they can better understand Him, and I can understand why we all wish to do this, but when it boils right down to it, our personal relationship with God is nothing anyone can explain with human understanding.

It says right in the bible, Proverbs 3:5 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will direct your paths."

Why then do we continue to make attempts at using our own understanding to explain a being we know very little about?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:19 pm    Post subject:
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yeah!
and the mathematicians are only discovering what GOD HAD PUT INTO PLAY"IN THE BEGINNING"

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yesicanread, I hope you don't think I am being rude, but could you direct me to the wikkipedia page you are quoting. What you have written, without making claims of being an expert, seems to me to be utter jibberish.

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Let's take this bit by bit

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Also A line conserves Energy. Action = Action, Line = Line.

When you say, "A line conserves energy" are you referring to "the shortest distance between two points is a straight line" and so minimum expenditure of energy will occur on a linear path.

What is your definition of "Action"?

Isn't it redundant to say "Action=Action, Line=Line"? How is this helpful to the argument?

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i don't get it at all.
maybe i'm too dumb.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject:
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Gee. I only have a BS in computer science with a minor in math and enough physics to teach at the high school level but that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I don't think that you could ever provide convincing proof of God through mathematics or science, although there is a great deal of evidence of him in both areas.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:43 am    Post subject:
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although there is a great deal of evidence of him in both areas.


Where?


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