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TeMerc
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 Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: PrivacyTools creator threatens to add spyware!!! |
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Hello all. I am posting below a thread which was started over at Spyware Warrior Forums, where I am a Mod/HJT analyst.
http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=4112&highlight=
One of our members posted an inquirely about the above anti spy app. The creator of the app joined the conversation, which started out with him wanting to fix all the horrifc amount of f/ps, and general overall poor performance.
After about 2 pages of many criticisms, he got mad, and here are a few quotes.
| Quote: | Ashly:
Although I tested the software and had a few others test it, we (me and my programmers) are the new to the business and didn't realize the software was producing false positives. I have stopped selling the software until my new version has been tested and confirmed it is ok to continue selling. Eric and a few other sites all independent from myself will test the software before it is sold |
| Quote: | Suzi:
Most everyone who has been around on the Net for a while knows of Clickbank and their shady affiliate marketing. Nearly every rogue applicaton on the list is marketed though Clickbank. They use URL redirects and other tricks to mask the identities of the affiliates and their affiliates use unethical advertising techniques. I could cite you dozens of examples. |
| Quote: | ashley:
couldnt really care what people think about clickbank. Shady techniques and redirects as you call them is just the way affiliate system works, man you people cant even have a little cookie on your PC with an affiliates name in without stressing about it. I will actually continue to sell through clickbank, I have never heard of them ever being shady and they are actually very popular |
| Quote: | Ashly:
And to be honest i'm even thinking of having some programmers write me some spyware. Yep, actual spyware to infect ppls machines. Why? Cus you all suck. I'm trying to work with you but you couldnt give a sh1t. So why try and work with the anti-spyware community when there only against you? You guys are against me so much that i'm going to start distributing spyware myself, its not hard. UNDETECTABLE stuff too To be honest theres probably more money in this then the actual spyware removal |
| Quote: | Ashly:
Yesterday I took the first step towards taking action against the posts in this forum. I have contacted an attorney in the US to represent me.
I quote from an email they sent me:
"You can sue for any defamatory posts that in fact do damage you-- Our attorneys could also become directly involved"
From here on I retain my right to remain silence until further advice is sought |
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| Quote: | Then, Ashly:
I am taking the advise of my legal guy and I am not going to be taking this any further.
At the end of the day as soon as my beta version is finished I will continue to sell my software and will do so knowing that I am doing nothing wrong. Nothing illegal, nothing dishonest. |
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Ashly:
IF YOU TEST THE SOFTWARE OR HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOFTWARE PLEASE EMAIL ME. IF YOU KEEP EMAILING ME STUPID QUESTIONS (i.e not related to the software) I'M GONNA ADD SOMETHING TO MY EULA THAT WILL STATE:
By using this software you agree that you are not the owner of, affiliated with, or a member of spywarewarrior.com |
| Quote: | Ashly:
Why do you think Eric is not testing the latest version? Because he is smart and he knows its not worth the hassle. The license clearly states 'members of spywarewarrior.com' which includes you |
| Quote: | Eric Howes:
Actually, I figured that if you were so clearly determined to make an ass of yourself in public and destroy the reputation of yourself, your firm, and your software, who was I to stand in the way? |
The above is just a small snippet of many amazing and amusing quotes by a man, who can't possibly be standing as many times as he has shot himself in the foot.
Take the time to read the 4 pages, and growing, and be there when this guy makes history in the malware scumbag writting anti spyware world. Its truely incredible.
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Harry_Letterman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I am "Harry Letterman" from the Spyware Warrior thread. For more info. on Ashley's highly suspect activities, as well as exposure to his false claims and contradictions, I respectfully suggest that people take a look at Spyware Warrior Admin Suzi's Blog.
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Harry_Letterman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi Paul,
Thanks so much for the welcome. I had not seen the front page article until you pointed it out. I've been rather busy with getting the word out.
Another interesting note: It appears that Ashley has violated the T&C's at CNET's Upload.com by manipulating the data or statistics for PT 2004. I have emailed CNET to inform them of Ashley's activities. Upload.com T&C - http://upload.com.com/1200-21-892663.html?tag=subnav
[Edit: Taken from Upload.com's T&C page] "Your Conduct on the Service
If we discover that you have manipulated the data or statistics for a certain product, we reserve the right to remove the product from the CNET Downloads library and from CNET Download.com."
Ashley has paid people between $25-30 to write not terrible reviews of his software. ScriptLance post by ash1ey ( http://www.scriptlance.com/projects/1092083358.shtml ):
"Hello
I am looking for someone to write 5 good reviews for my software at download.com - The reviews must be positive reviews and based around the good features of our software. This will require you to have 5 different email address's to register different reviews.
Payment will be escrowed via scriptlance and then released on completition of the work.
Urgent Job.
Thanks"
Glowing feedback from the 5 lucky souls who have worked for ash1ey is here - https://www.scriptlance.com/cgi-bin/freelancers/feedback.cgi?w=ash1ey
Hope you don't mind my reproducing some of the info. from the article here in the forums. If you feel that it warrants removal I will understand.
P.S. Very nice & informative article! 
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Paul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:38 am Post subject: |
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No by all means... if you feel something should be added to the front page article, go ahead and add a comment. I think with our sites this will get quite the publicity.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Update: It appears as though CNET's Download.com has removed the download link for Privacy Tools 2004. The User Opinions page at Download.com is still up - http://www.download.com/3302-8022_4-10303104.html - but when I click "Download Now" no download process is started. There is a line on the "Download in Progress" page ( http://www.download.com/3001-8022-10303104.html?idl=n ) that reads:
"If your download does not start, click here." [Note: The word "here" is a hyperlink at Download.com as well as here]
When I click on "here" yet another Download.com page appears ( http://www.download.com/3002-8022-10303104.html?tag=dir ), this one for www.privacytools2004.com .
If I choose the "Secure Download" option at Download.com ( http://www.download.com/3302-8022_4-10303104.html ) a "Secure Delivery" process begins and I am prompted to click "Yes" if I want the D/L yet there is no "Yes" button to click. I left the window open for a couple of minutes (I have a dialup connection) to see what would happen and this message appeared:
"Delivery Error
The content you are trying to access is not available. Please click here [http://help.kontiki.com/enduser/category.jsp?node=789&aspect=kontiki] to report the problem. (Z_ERROR_CANT_GET_URL)"
Kudos to CNET for removing the download links to Privacy Tools 2004.
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TeMerc
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Good work, Harry, glad to see they took some action regarding this creeps trashy app. You should post an update over at SWW too.
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Harry_Letterman
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Paul,
No offence, but your update note on the frontpage is not entirely accurate. The CNET Review page for PT 2004 is still up - http://www.download.com/3302-8022_4-10303104.html - but the download links have been disabled.
Note: Edited to correct URL
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