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Alpha Version Update 10-14-04
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: Alpha Version Update 10-14-04
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Download! [Updated 10-14-04]
Get it HERE! (zip 204kb) No installer, just use the install instructions below.

Thx
To CJ for testing! Also, Grypen and the rest of the people on the forum who have been helping out in my absence. Smile

Changes
Well, basicly a small update... Only started making changes last week or so.. lol

1. Gmail works
2. Y! Mail works
3. Google Filters Updated (The main change.. One thing to note. It may look better in Opera and Firefox. Wink )
4. Various bug fixes from forum threads. (Not done yet tho)
5. Small fixes to Various Filters. (Heh Very Happy)
6. 2 or 3 new filters. (Marked with [test])
7. Small update to the pop-up blocker
8. Started adding filter author names

Configs
I've included JD_Basic_A, JD_Extra_A and JD_Advanced_A.

Install
NOTE: You do not need to delete any of the original Proxomitron files. Nor will any original files need to be overwritten.

1. Place "JD_Basic_A.cfg", "JD_Extra_A.cfg" and "JD_Advanced_A.cfg" in your Proxomitron directory.

2. Place the "JD_Lists_Alpha" folder, in your "Lists" folder.

3. Place the "JD_HTML_Alpha" folder, in your "HTML" folder.

4. Load your config of choice. (Double click the Proxomitron tray icon, File -> Load Config File)

- Option #1: JD_Basic_A.cfg (My attempt at a "set it and forget it" config. The settings are the same as when I install Proxo for family and friends.)
- Option #1: JD_Extra_A.cfg (A slight step above Basic, a few more security type filters are enabled.)
- Option #2: JD_Advanced_A.cfg (My daily config, minus some cosmetic filters I use..)

Optional: Drop Killed.html into your "HTML" folder. This will overwrite your default, so make a backup. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject:
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One more note..

The filters..

"User Text Size: Small"
"User Text Size: Medium - %"
"User Text Size: Large - %"
"User Text Size: X-Large"

Are not for real use. They are just test filters, ignore them. Wink

Use ...

"User Text Size: Medium - Fixed"

or..

"User Text Size: Large - Fixed"

EDIT: I should explain. Along with the two above filters.. You would also need to enable...

"Text Sizes - CSS {2.d}"
"Text Sizes - FONT {2.d}"
"Text Sizes - SMALL {2.d}"

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:26 am    Post subject:
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Thanks, will give them a whirl!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject:
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OK, I've integrated them into my set and am road testing them now. I've found a couple of small bugs so far:

1. The Tracking Links filter works much better now than it did before (JD probably knows me as the Tracking Link king after my frequent emails to him to refine them!! Very Happy ) but I've noticed that the old Tracking Link popup text doesn't appear next to the link anymore, but rather displays object Event top left of the whole page. Also, it no longer changes the background colour, though that's not a problem unless the modified link doesn't work and you're trying to figure out why.

EDIT: Now they seem to be working properly, after I disabled Kye-U's security pack for testing purposes. For now I think I'll leave Kye-U's pack in, but disabled by default, so those who want to use them can. I will still tweak the timing on the popup slightly (longer delay before popup) but other than that they appear to be fine.

2. The new Meta Refresh filter (the modified one >10secs anyway) causes the entire page to go display:none when really I think you're only trying to show the refresh time and then hide it. CNN is a good one to test this on. I put my older version back in and it worked fine as before:

Code:
Name = "Disable:  Auto Meta Refreshes >10sec <1hr (tick only one) {4.a} [Grypen]"
Active = TRUE
URL = "$TYPE(htm)"
Bounds = "<meta\s*>"
Limit = 256
Match = "*http-equiv=("|)refresh*"
        "&"
        "*content=("|) ([#11:3599])\2"
        "("
        " ([;,]|) "
        "("
        "(url=("|)((^*[+]*[>" ])&([^>" ]+)\1))"
        "|"
        "((^url)&$SET(1=#))"
        ")"
        ")*"
Replace = "<center>"
          "<a class=proxlink id="PrxRefresh" href="\1">[Meta Refresh: \2 sec]</a>"
          "</center>"
          "$STOP()"

I kept my own additions to the three User files so those who wanted specific kills on various pages still have them (as do I) and I've added in the custom filters I had made for various sites as well.

I'll upload the new set (it will be dated 06 Oct 04) once I have tested it a bit more and have made sure it works the way I want it to.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject:
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It's up! Grab it via my sig and please read the forum topic I started on it for more info and cautions.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject:
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thanks very much both of you for continuing work on this. i think there's lots more people using them, e.g. i've been following for months but only signed up yesterday. keep it up please!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject:
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JD,

is it possible to revert Google to it's earlier CSS scheme or provide for a more default look (while retaining the new functionality such as thumbnails, preview and the backdrop alternating colours)?

Perhaps a simple option like your Thumbnail/no thumbnail option (number 7)?

It works fine, it's just that Google is so well known that changing it markedly may have adverse effects on people's acceptance of your filters because it makes things "different".

Anyway, just a suggestion! Smile


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yep grypen i have to agree with that, the new colour scheme isn't bad but an option would be even better Smile

also interesting work on the new flash hider buttons! can't decide if it's better yet, will let you know Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject:
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JD5000 wrote:

"User Text Size: Medium - Fixed"
or..
"User Text Size: Large - Fixed"

Noticed that the Medium-Fixed uses "%" while the Large-Fixed has "px". Unsure if they're supposed to not be the same or you accidentally reversed the names of the two (large-%/large-fixed)... (advanced-a)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject:
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theyipper, nice find. I hate when I do that when I duplicate filters. lol

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also interesting work on the new flash hider buttons! can't decide if it's better yet, will let you know


Yea... Wasn't sure about them either... They are growing on me tho. I just wanted the quick bypass and save link, without having to click on the flash.

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It works fine, it's just that Google is so well known that changing it markedly may have adverse effects on people's acceptance of your filters because it makes things "different".


Good point. I made those filters a month or so ago, for my own use... I wasn't thinking about other users.. lol So, in y'alls opinion, alternating bg colors. But the default google text colors and such?

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2. The new Meta Refresh filter (the modified one >10secs anyway) causes the entire page to go display:none when really I think you're only trying to show the refresh time and then hide it. CNN is a good one to test this on. I put my older version back in and it worked fine as before:


Hmm.. CNN loads fine here. Opera, IE, FF. I did notice I had some tags wrong... But, CNN loaded fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:24 am    Post subject:
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JD5000 wrote:
So, in y'alls opinion, alternating bg colors. But the default google text colors and such?

I'd have to go with that, yes, but certainly that doesn't mean you need to scrap the new one. Just an option to use either would be fine.

JD5000 wrote:
Grypen wrote:
2. The new Meta Refresh filter (the modified one >10secs anyway) causes the entire page to go display:none when really I think you're only trying to show the refresh time and then hide it. CNN is a good one to test this on. I put my older version back in and it worked fine as before:

Hmm.. CNN loads fine here. Opera, IE, FF. I did notice I had some tags wrong... But, CNN loaded fine.

I'll keep playing with it and see if I can pin down the problem. As I say, currently I have my variant in and it's working fine, so that's the default in my 06Oct04 set for others, just to be on the safe side.

Have to agree that the Flash buttons are a little different, I'm also trying to decide if they're good or not. Certainly the old text option was perfectly suitable, although they did occasionally tend to hide when similar colour to the background. It may be worth starting a thread where people can submit their own ideas for buttons, for the simple reason that once you get into UI design of any sort, it needs to develop a unified look otherwise people may mistake them for page elements on the sites themselves.

Once other thing I noticed, the convert embedded movies to links filter doesn't work with MOV files on Apple's site, since they always seem to obfuscate the direct download link. I find I can usually fix it manually by adding an "m" in front of the resolution portion of the name, eg: trailer1_480.mov changed to trailer1_m480.mov then gives you the full file download link. It's always been a bugbear since I like seeing trailers, but I've never been able to fix it other than manually. Perhaps you'll see a solution.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject:
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Well, I get this error when I try to run any of these.Sad

Edited to add that I would love it if we could have a choice to have the old Google if we prefer. I'm using Firefox and Mozilla. I'm sure some people will love the changes but it is very hard for me to read now (the text is grey and pale green! no black text!!), plus, I don't like preview windows of any type. I never use any sort of preview. I also don't use thumbnails. With the preview there and the other things that are added, the page is full with very few hits. I like a lot of hits on one page and I like it lean and mean not cluttered as it is in the new way (to me). (I also actually like the Google ads on Google. Very Happy I don't want the Google strip ads on other sites, but they are useful on Google itself and I get them with your old extra config). I think you will have a lot of users not upgrading if Google no longer looks like Google. I wouldn't mind in the least if you changed Yahoo, CNN or just about any site except Google and DSLReports. Very Happy

Could you kindly point me to where I can turn off gif animation to this site? The smilies are flickering away. That will trigger a migraine. I recall you excluded this site and dslr from the no gif animation in your Oct 2003 set. That was in trusted, but I don't see trusted in this new alpha extra config.

I haven't looked at any thing else in the new configs yet. It is great to see you working on the alpha sets. Thanks for all the time you put into these. Smile




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Hmmm... CJ said he got the same error, but it disappeared after a reload of the config. Not sure.. I just tested the files, I can't reproduce that error..

Is the log file in...

<Prox Dir>\Lists\JD_Lists_Alpha\Config\log.txt

What OS, what program did ya use to unzip it?

As for google, working on the filters. Most everything should be optional.I have the filters done. But, I need to work on the CSS files.

Here's what I have so far...

Quote:
"Google: Mark Body"
"Google: Insert Style & Functions"
"---------- >"
"Google: Remove Ads"
"Google: Multi URL Untangler"
"---------- >"
"Google: Insert Advanced Links"
"."
"Google: Thumbnails"
". + File Types"
"."
"Google: Preview Links"
"---------- >"
"Google. Theme google"
". - Google"
". - Blue Theme"
"Google: Color Results"
"Google: Site Tools"


Thoughts? I know it's kinda hard to say anything without seeing the filters. But y'all should be able to get the idea. Smile

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That layout of Google filters is excellent IMHO. Look forward to testing them.

I too saw the log file thing once, but never again. Perhaps something to do with browser or Prox caching? It went away and never came back so it's not really an issue. Could have been me integrating both filter sets and accidentally forgetting to include log.txt.... who knows?


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JD5000 wrote:
Hmmm... CJ said he got the same error, but it disappeared after a reload of the config. Not sure.. I just tested the files, I can't reproduce that error..

Is the log file in...

<Prox Dir>\Lists\JD_Lists_Alpha\Config\log.txt

What OS, what program did ya use to unzip it?


It's here: C:\Program Files\Proxomitron Naoko-4\Lists\JD_Lists_Alpha\JD_Lists_Alpha\Config

I get it every time I try to load any of the latest Alpha configs.

I Have XP Pro Sp1a and I used the zipped folders Extraction Wizard that is in XP. I used that for the first set of Alpha configs. I recall getting this error before. I can't recall if it was the first Alpha configs or with your Oct 2003 set which I installed only a few months before the Alpha sets.

There is a problem with the topics in this forum around February-March 2004 when I first started using your configs and I posted a lot here with questions. I could not find my posts or other topics during that crucial period just by looking through each page of this forum. I didn't bookmark or print any of those topics because I thought I could always just look for them. I finally found one of my topics by searching Your Posts. But other topics I did not post in and cannot locate that way.
I asked in the Site Inbox forum yesterday and Paul has replied that topics during that time frame were "mangled" due to improper email addresses for notification. So, the topics are there, but not in chronological order and cannot be found unless you know the name of the topic or you posted in it. Sad Thus, I don't know if I can locate the posts about this error which I know I had before.

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As for google, working on the filters. Most everything should be optional.I have the filters done. But, I need to work on the CSS files.

Thoughts? I know it's kinda hard to say anything without seeing the filters. But y'all should be able to get the idea. Smile

~JD


You know, I might grow to like your new Google filters. Smile But it would be very nice if I could grow into that gradually. So, thanks for making it optional for those of us who find sudden change difficult at times.

I got gif animation such as the smilies here to stop, but I still see the scrolling box under Forum topics on the Home page here. How do I stop that from scrolling here or at any site that has such an irritating thing (to me)? Your Oct 2003 extra config has that stopped as does your first set of Alpha configs when gif animation is frozen. But just checking "freeze gif animation" with your Alpha Extra config doesn't stop that automatic scrolling in that box. Nor does that stop it in the new Alpha Basic config.

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